this post was submitted on 29 Dec 2023
163 points (97.7% liked)

News

23293 readers
3363 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

New York lost more residents – and at the largest rate – in 2023 than any other state, despite an overall rise in the U.S. population, according to U.S. Census data.

The bureau released a map showing the percentage change in state populations between July 2022 and July 2023 – New York stands out as the only state colored a deep orange, a label for a percentage change of -0.5 or more.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Pogbom@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm Canadian so I'm really asking this genuinely, but which liberties are being crushed in NY that aren't in other states?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't know OP, but I won't be surprised at all if it's something about guns.

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just moved to upstate from the Bible belt, like half the people I've talked to about guns have complained that you aren't allowed to shoot an intruder until they directly assault your person, not just them being on your property or inside the house taking stuff. Legit upset they can't value their possessions more than another human life.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The person I'm talking to said they don't care how bad the crime is, just how much police do about it. So yeah, they don't care about crime or safety, they just care about violence.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Guns, crime, and lower taxes. California, Oregon, Illinois, and NY are gun unfriendly, have barely enforced crime, and higher taxes. Texas and Florida are both gun friendly, actually enforce laws, and have lower taxes.

Californians leaving California because of the state of California and voting to make their new state more like California is peak Californian cognitive dissonance.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please provide evidence that all of Florida and Texas have lower crime than all of Illinois, California, Oregon and New York.

And yeah, I'm not surprised guns was your main criterion, even before crime and taxes. Gotta have the precious.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not crime rate, enforcement.

Guns were the reason you gave, so that came first.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

So it doesn't matter how much crime there is, it only matters how many people arrested there are? That's your metric?

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Enforcement metrics just show the rate that minorities get harassed by cops and aren’t proportional to crime itself. Crime statistics, unless comparing the same crime per-capita (ie, homicides per 100,000) tend to reflect the amount of regular activities criminalized rather than the number of harmful acts done by individuals (ie, make a drug that many people have a crime, and now you have more crime and more criminals).

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca -2 points 10 months ago

For clarity reasons I would like to start by saying most of my knowledge is based on New York City and not the state as a whole, though most of the people in the state live in the city so this is alright in my eyes. New York City currently is one of the most bloated budgets in terms of taxes in the country. With all if those people presumably paying taxes for the city they live in you would think they wouldn’t have to charge each person so much to live there. NYC has a rampant homeless issue, and an overbudgeted, militarized police force to deal with them and normal citizens. Even with such a big police force they can’t do shit about the crime in the city. Ghettos in the burbs have little police presence because they don’t want to deal with the actual crime in the city, they would rather take the easy route of bullying homeless people trying to sleep. Speaking of crime in the city, overregulation on firearms ensure only criminals have access to anything, plus they do not have a right to stand ground law, leaving New Yorkers with one option if they were to be robbed at gun point. New York politicians would rather earn brownie points with constituants than do anything useful, leading to nothing happening and normal people suffering, and then leaving.