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[–] azron@lemmy.ml 197 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Friendly reminder that you can uninstall edge due to an EU ruling. Remove-MS-Edge

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 89 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Too much trouble. Just uninstall the entire OS.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

yup, switching to linux is the way

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

This is the way.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Alternatively, you can use Bulk Crap Uninstaller, which is a super useful tool for uninstalling nearly anything!

[–] eldain@feddit.nl 14 points 10 months ago
[–] Roastchicken@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Does it uninstall windows?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Removing Edge may cause update failure loop.

beautiful

[–] catbaba@lemmus.org 22 points 10 months ago

Definitely not monopolistic at all. Not worthy of an anti-trust investigation, NOPE!

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Yup I'm literally encountering this RN in Windows on my dual-booted system. So annoying!

[–] Zulu@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

My favorite part is how it'll reinstall itself every so often when the OS updates. I used to be able to brick that in registry but its changed again to where that trick doesnt work anymore.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zulu@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Correct, but thats not really a solution as i would still need to emulate a windows OS to play the games i want.

That said, linux has come a far way in that regard. Hopefully just another few years.

Windows becoming more of a service/subscription will hopefully speed that process up as people abandon ship.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That said, linux has come a far way in that regard. Hopefully just another few years.

Have you actually tried it lately? I've been gaming exclusively on Linux since a few years ago, at this point.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sadly, I have one game that will not work in Linux. I have thousands of hours in it, and I truly love it.

Rust

Also, apparently I'm a masochist

[–] alci@jlai.lu 4 points 10 months ago

Works perfectly on Linux.Just run rustup.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 10 months ago

You can play it, even though only on servers which disabled Easy Anti-Cheat.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That says more about the games you play than the capacity of Linux. Now do it without proton or wine, or pick any unsupported AAA game.

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Saying do it without proton or wine in response is insane, it's like saying "Now do it without your gpu plugged in." They aren't native Linux, but who cares as long as they run well.

The few games with problematic anticheat are a deal issue though.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

No, there no equivalent because windows doesn't need third party interpretors for AAA gaming software

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Delete the win32 API and DirectX DLL files (which is basically all WINE is replicating) and see how well Windows plays your games then!

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I'll delete what my system is having to replicate and you do too, let's see who can run games.

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I simply don't care. Games run fine under proton, why should I?

It's not even extra work you have to do, steam handles pretty much all of it.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You don't have to care, but don't expect others not to just because you're OK with a substandard experience. If you're OK eating shit that's fine, but don't trytell me it's chocolate when I'm holding real chocolate.

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Proton simply does not deliver a meaningfully substandard experience. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's worse. I'd bet the majority of steam deck users don't even know what it is.

Most games take a slight performance hit, so small you won't notice unless you're watching the numbers. Some games even have better performance on proton than native windows.

Why do you think it's substandard?

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)


areweanticheatyet.com

Oof.

and 16 pages that all look like this:

[–] smooth_jazz_warlady@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So, if you're really dedicated about playing a game with anticheat that doesn't natively support Linux, and even dual booting isn't an option, virtual machines are. In particular, Linux has a feature neither MacOS nor Windows share called KVM, which essentially lets you loan physical components to the VM, giving it full use of them and cutting them off from the host PC. This lets VMs running on Linux compete on a level equivalent to a similar OS, natively installed on the same hardware, and absolutely smokes the benchmarks of Windows- and MacOS-hosted VMs.

And they can be a pain to set up, but once you get one up and running, there are exactly 3 games on that list that you can't get up and running, Valorant, CS:GO(ESEA) and CS:GO(Faceit). The latter two of which were recently bought out with Saudi blood money, and the former demands a control freak level of access over your PC to even run.

It is personal opinions, not compatibility, that keeps me from playing fortnite (Tim Sweeney will never be forgiven for doing his hardest to kill the Unreal series, and fortnite skins being a source of modern childhood bullying is despicable) with one friendship group and destiny 2 (might actually be a good game if it wasn't designed to be a black hole of money and time that deletes its own back-catalogue of content regularly, Sony pls fire Bungie's incompetent management already) with the another.

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[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You out here comparing windows to real chocolate?

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

No, I'm comparing Linux to hershe's, they're trying to compare hershe's to real chocolate.

[–] mat@jlai.lu 3 points 10 months ago

Just wanted to add that in my experience, Castlevania lord of shadows was unplayable due to graphical bugs on windows, but flawless through proton (that didn't need any setup btw)

[–] smooth_jazz_warlady@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If we're talking about substandard experiences, then Windows overall is definitely one to Linux once you stop trying to treat Linux like Windows-lite and learn to treat it as its own thing.

You don't even have package managers (what smartphone app stores are a pale imitation of), you get motherfucking ads in your start menus, your desktop customisation options are paltry at best and half of them are locked behind a paywall, your OS gobbles RAM and processing power like a stoner with the munchies, it's absolutely littered with baked-in bad decisions from the 90s, hundreds of millions of devices are locked out of future upgrades, and the amount of telemetry built-in could easily be called spyware.

Linux may be difficult to learn and have areas with spotty compatibility, but she'll run on a toaster, is totally free, is infinitely customisable (https://lemmy.world/c/unixporn, alas the subreddit is still bigger but I'm not linking that shit here) and highly modular, answers to you and you alone, and can do an entire system update in the background with a single command. There are many reasons why Linux has pushed Windows out of the supercomputer, server, IoT, smartphone, and now AI fields (and sibling BSD Unix holds sway over mainframes and most console OSes, like the Switch and last three Playstations). Desktop PCs are just about the only place where the Windows marketshare still eclipses Linux.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cool, well while you're wondering why your toaster doesn't have native drivers I'll continue using the better product. I've used Linux, been using pc's longer than most of the people pushing Linux have been alive. You still won't convince me second tier is first tier.

[–] smooth_jazz_warlady@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Why do you feel so threatened by Linux just existing? We're not going to take Windows away from you

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's the equivalent of saying "now run directx under linux" It's literally insane.

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There's OpenDX, which seems cool, but my understanding is it'd have to be implemented in the game not just on a system, so why bother doing that over Vulkan.

[–] Dimpships@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, have you?

areweanticheatyet.com

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't give a fuck about a negligible 117 games, compared to the thousands upon thousands that run in Linux just fine. Posting a pie chart that ignores the existence of those just so it can misleadingly pretend 37% of anything is "broken" on Linux is bordering on bad faith.

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Love that they chose to cherrypick the one thing pretty much everyone has talked about being the issue left to fix. Looking at games people actually play, it's like 3%.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Gaming for me is mostly fine on Linux, it's running Ableton with standard plug-ins that doesn't work, surprisingly. Basically the only way I can run my own hardware for a music rig is through Windows. Also the odd thing like "run this firmware update utility" for various devices, then you'll have to go forum diving where people have tried all the workarounds to realize the workaround is just "use winblows."

I'm a mixed environment sysadmin for almost 15 years so Windows doesn't bother me as a product as much as others, I don't like Microsoft's business practices, but I can pretty much disable anything I don't like on Windows Enterprise. Like they are compliant with security regulations regarding critical infrastructure, as much as people justifiably rant about privacy concerns they try and force on to end users, but you can get around a lot of that with the same old commands. Our isolated environment isn't sending data to Microsoft or anything from our workstations for instance, and this traffic is heavily monitored and audited.

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

well there used to be a hack that had kept my win10 system edge-free for around 4 years, edge just reinstalled itself tho (yesterday)

[–] optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

I just got tired of their bullshit and moved to Linux.

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