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[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why not? Why isn't it offensive that people follow gods that hate without any proof at all that those gods exist? I think that's pretty offensive. Their following these religions and churches causes pain, suffering, hate, death, and genocide.

Time to stop giving a free pass to people supporting religious hate groups because they're religious.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why isn’t it offensive that people follow gods that hate without any proof at all that those gods exist? I think that’s pretty offensive.

In a free society you're free to be offended. You're not free to use that offense to deny other people's beliefs (however wrong we individually find them).

Their following these religions and churches causes pain, suffering, hate, death, and genocide.

So you're going to decide which things are going to be allowed to be followed by everyone by your own set of rules, and use force of law to make it happen? Don't you see that's doing the same thing the OP's meme is speaking against?

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you are twisting their words. “Stop giving free pass” in this context means to criticize them and say it is wrong thing to do. “Be offended”. Not “use force of law”.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

IMO, the force of law should come down when they try to force their beliefs onto everyone else- for example, abortion. technically, abortion restrictions are mostly religious laws... and are technically forbidden by the first amendment.

but generally, nobody should force another to believe different than they do. If reason and logic and gentle persuasion aren't enough... then that's okay. (incidentally, they're the ones using aggressive tactics, more often than not.)

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Their following these religions and churches causes pain, suffering, hate, death, and genocide.

Yeah, partly because they use their religion as an excuse to ignore problems. We're changing the environment in our entire planet, our only possible home, in dangerous and sometimes irreversible ways, and they'll say "I'm not worried, it's in God's hands."

I was talking to one of them and they were trying to deny that the climate is changing. When I called them out for being ignorant they just said "well, the Lord Jesus is coming back so it's fine."