Also I wouldn’t say that a single ship name is indicative of the entire franchise. It was worked on by thousands of people, and even if they were all diehard leftists, cohesion would be extremely hard to maintain.

Plus I don’t care if it’s Soccdem, if we can get to the Star Trek Federation level of society. I will take that in a heartbeat over the current powers that rule the world today. Though I wouldn’t even say that it’s entirely soccdem, for example the series pushes hard on the “no money” aspect, which would be strange for a soccdem to focus on, but an integral part of communism. They even dunk on capitalists with that one episode where they revive the businessman and dunk on him because the stock market ceased to exist several hundred years ago.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Having watched most of the series, there's a tonal shift from the earlier material into late TNG. And I'd rather take the Federation over what we've got happening now, too. Just pointing out the show's writers aren't necessarily Marxists just because they dunk on capitalism and want a moneyless society.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You’re definitely right with everything. Only thing I can add is that the show was probably forced to be “sanitized” due to gaining popularity.

But you are right with your conclusion.

[–] MILFCortana@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Roddenberry also left after s1

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Oh, almost definitely. I don't doubt there were communists working on Star Trek somewhere before the network "sanatized" it.