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His original post , titled I can't sleep, is some brilliant writing. When we talk about the chilling effect that criticism of Israel creates in industries everywhere (including ours) this is what that looks like.

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[–] sab@kbin.social 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Does someone know if anyone maintains a list of companies or organizations where this kind of bullshit has gone down, with link to sources? Could be useful to keep track.

I can't believe how quickly we went from pretending we thought murdering civilians was a bad thing to concluding it's merely a matter of killing the right civilians.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a conversation going on in that Mastodon thread where one dude is proposing a static site fueled by a fact-checked list, but that's the only thing I've seen other than BDS.

[–] sab@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Shit, I'm on the phone over the holidays, will keep an eye on this. Thanks!

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will preface this by saying that there are risks to being openly involved.


There are people work to avoid taking actions that may benefit Israel:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions

https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Definitely doesn't help that most of the damn US has some form of Anti-BDS laws. Because everybody knows Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism right guys?

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

The US ""free market"" - Where if you choose not to do business with somebody they make it illegal not to.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anti-Zionism and antisemitism are not the same thing, but neither are they mutually exclusive.

[–] sab@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Anti-fascism and anti-semitims are also not mutually exclusive. Anti-communism and anti-consumerism are not mutually exclusive. Anti-war and anti-liberalism are not mutually exclusive. Anti-abortion and anti-gay rights are not mutually exclusive.

Hell, few things are mutually exclusive. You had a handful of god-damn Jewish Nazis and one fucking honorary aryan during the war. So not even Semitism and anti-Semitism are mutually fucking exclusive.

Things not being mutually exclusive is a pretty fucking moot argument.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things not being mutually exclusive is a pretty fucking moot argument.

It's not an argument.

[–] sab@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was a statement. Why do you find it so upsetting that something antisemitic might also be called anti-Zionist?

[–] sab@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Anti-Semitism is used for people who dislike Jews, anti-Zionism is opposition to a political ideology. One of these is deplorable, the other is vital to any non-totalitarian society, whether you agree with it or not.

By blurring the line between the two you are at best either legitimizing anti-Semitism or pushing towards a totalitarian mindset where political ideologies cannot be challenged. In reality you're doing both. And even worse, I think you know what you're doing.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

By blurring the line between the two you are at beist either legitimizing anti-Semitism or pushing towards a totalitarian mindset where political ideologies cannot be challenged

How am I blurring the line?
What did I say that made it more difficult for you or anyone else to determine what is anti-Zionism and what is antisemitism?
Did I suggest some change to the definition of what constitutes something being labeled one or the other?
Did I suggest a method for determining what is antisemitic or anti-Zionist?
Did I make a false statement?

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Grear idea! I'm curious if theres an equivalent for BLM that can be forked

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

You are gonna want to clarify that.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If you want a precise list you need to precisely define the bullshit you’re referring to. You want a list of companies that have done what exactly?