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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 105 points 9 months ago (9 children)

People. Cocaine is not maryjanes. You can get addicted badly to cocaine. There's tons of neurological effects that will cause you to not function proplerly in society. By all means smoke your ganja but don't equate hard drugs with it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have a completely different problem with cocaine. Namely that it is extremely exploitive to the people who grow the coca. It takes about two acres of coca plants to produce just one kilo of cocaine. Obviously, that means the people who farm it are paid virtually nothing and live on starvation wages. If it's really cheap in Switzerland, that makes it worse.

On top of that, coca plantations are responsible for huge amounts of deforestation in an area of the world that should not be deforested.

However- hundreds of thousands of people are working in coca plantations and own small coca farms and if this all ended, they wouldn't even have the meagre wages they make from coca farming. So I don't know what the solution here is.

[–] sn0o@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

wouldn't legalizing it also solve that issue? It could be grown legally - much like legal marijuana.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lots of highly addicting stuff is legal, I don't care if people do cocaine. Make it legal and safely accessible so drug addicts can participate in society and not have to fund cartels

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago

Many mistakes are available at highly competitive prices.

[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

The question is whether or not a legal-in-some-circumstances is more effective at reducing social damage than keeping it illegal.

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What consenting adults do with their body is their own business.

Bodily autonomy is an all or nothing thing. Whether you're talking about abortion, gender affirming surgery, taking a dick in the ass and in the mouth at the same time, or shooting meth into your dick. It's all the same thing.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The same things can be said about maryjanes as well. And about alcohol. With cocaine it is just even more likely.

[–] zen404@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah it's always the same thing. "Guys, you can smoke cigarettes, but weed will fry your brains and leave you completely useless to society. Legalizing would be a disaster".

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Idk, it seems like a pretty big jump in addiction potential. I don't hear of too many people going into sex work to support their alcohol and cannabis habits.

I do support at least decriminalization of all drugs though. As long as it coincides with adequate education, harm reduction, and therapy resources.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Not even close

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, light and legal drugs are not okay as well. They too may cause severe health (including mental health) issues, as well as addiction.

THC, alcohol, nicotine and even caffeine cause significant and measurable harm, and you'll be much better off by restricting them long-term, unless you have medical indications to consume them.

If you need any of them to relax or to have a good party or to stay productive, remember it is NOT sustainable and actively harmful and something has to be done about the way you organize your life. You can't go on like this forever, it will get you eventually

[–] djdadi@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

There are plenty of "hard drugs" you can do with very little damage to your body. Cocaine is not one of them. In fact, it's one of the worst things you can do for your heart.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is saying that people should start taking cocaine. Just that you shouldn't get your life ruined by having it / using it.

Also, knowing that what your getting isn't mixed with mdma, amphetamines, ketamine and being able to properly monitor your dosage instead of guesstimating the purity and doing brain arithmetic is very helpful.

There's a major difference in having the person who sells it to you wanting you to quit vs wanting you to consume more.

[–] djdadi@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Ironically, cocaine would be safer if it were cut with those 3 drugs

You can get addicted to and fuck up your life with bud too my friend. It’s harder but it’s possible. Source, me.

Also, as the others said. Coke being illegal does nothing to stop its prevalence so what’s the point.