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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You have a star trek inspired profile but ignore the ethos of startrek set out by Gene Roddenberry

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

You mean the ethos that religion and spirituality wouldn't exist in the future? That one? The one where TNG goes out of its way time and time again to demonstrate that people who hold religious and spiritual beliefs end up stuck in the dark ages? The one where they have a Prime Directive to specifically prohibit the building of religion around their tech because Starfleet and the Federation recognize that religion causes extreme upheval and sets back their technological progress because they're obsessed with nonsense? That one? That ethos? The one where it also explicitly says that you should not respect someone's beliefs if those beliefs are harmful to others or promote dangerous thinking because then it curtails the rights of others? Where if the beliefs cause pain to individuals they're not worth a second thought? That one? That ethos? The one made by Gene Roddenberry? That Gene Roddenberry who repeatedly publicly said he was a secular humanist? That Gene? The secular one?

Star Trek backs me up. But of course you wouldn't know that because you're just desperately grabbing at some gotcha because you cannot find a single leg to stand on to defend your disgusting and harmful beliefs. Because there is no defense. Because they are disgusting. And harmful.

Have fun with that. I'm done giving attention to the likes of toxic spiritualists like you who try to spray their venom under the guise of being enlightened.

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Additionally it was specifically picard in some seasons that held this stance

The prime directive's goal is to stop interference with players and lifeforms natural development pre-warp, its purpose is not what you state

Your comment also lacks Additional context and nuance which I beleive is intentional to frame your comment in a specific way, it's like you are looking at specifoc parts of trek that fit what you want to state with your comment comment are surgically slicing those parts out without context and nuance and adapting them for your comment

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Don't care. Didn't read. See previous comment.

I'm going to block you now. You don't have anything to say that is worth my time.

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

This is also your own interpretation of star trek that backs you up

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No I'm talking about discrimination

Genes ethos includes not discriminating against someone for their differences

Here you are discriminating against people based on spiritual beleifs with prejudice and misinformed stereotypes and misinformed beleifs about people with spiritual beleifs

Do you think spiritual people don't go to see the doctor when they are sick, are you that misinformed

Prejudice holds us back as a society, you cannot use prejudice in the name of equality as that is hypocritical

And I have watched through TNG

It wasn't firmly locked in its stances and what would change from season to season and maybe even episode to episode

You cannot truely support equality if you use prejudice to put others down

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Don't care. Didn't read. See previous comment.