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Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net"

If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net".

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

While I'm cool with blocking threads.net, "we should block all corps from the Fediverse" doesn't make sense and that's a bad cause to focus on

It's fine if an instance wants to make that their policy, the fediverse gives an instance the freedom to do so, but it would provide little gain for a lot of annoyance

Other bad reasons:

  • "Meta can spy on us": they can do that even without threads.net, and federating makes little difference there
[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We certainly should keep corps at a 1km pole from here.

They come and ruin everything they tough in the name of profit. Can they force their way? Partially, maybe, in some ways. But if we welcome them with open doors, it will get way worse.

Let's keep this place tidy of bullshit, pretty please.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

We can take precautions against their nonsense by enforcing the standards, and we can educate people about why it's a problem. That becomes difficult if we just close off entirely. We can't have an impact on things we close off to and ignore

I don't think we should give up or welcome them with open doors, I just think there's more nuance to it than "defederate from any fediverse thing tied to a for profit entity"

Facebook's case is special because of their nasty history with control and abuse, so if people want to be extra aggressive with them then I'm good with it

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Well, first off - protect yourself, and then manage the rest. I welcome the noble goal of enforcement and policies and education, but it will always be like cathing a slinky.

We should be very vigilant with their presence here, and in this case, we should certainly close off.

[–] Dieinahole@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you understand what corporations do?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca -4 points 10 months ago

I've got some understanding yes

I think most people here have a similar sentiment around corporations and big tech companies, which is why we're on this platform and why we donate to keep them run by nonprofits