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SpaceX blasts FCC as it refuses to reinstate Starlink’s $886 million grant::FCC doubts ability to provide high-speed, low-latency service in all grant areas.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The SATs burn up after a few years.

Releasing all kinds of cool chemicals into the upper atmosphere, and no one really knows what kind of effect that will have. Cool.

No trash in space,

The number of satellites Starlink plans to launch will quintuple the number of spacecraft in LEO.

if you think sats in space in large numbers is clogging up space. I've got a bridge to sell you.

It absolutely is clogging up LEO, and multiple space agencies share that opinion. NASA wrote a whole letter on the potential hazards Starlink presents, and the challenges it adds to critical missions.

Do you crash into every house you drive past?

The speeds these satellites are moving at make this comparison so bad it's embarrassing. Starlink satellites have accounted for over half of all close calls since they've been in orbit, and when the constellation is done, it's estimated that that number will grow to 90% of all close encounters.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Releasing all kinds of cool chemicals into the upper atmosphere, and no one really knows what kind of effect that will have. Cool.

Lol what the fuck are you talking about, do you know how much shit burns up in our atmosphere yearly? It's a nothing burger.

The number of satellites Starlink plans to launch will quintuple the number of spacecraft in LEO.

Ooo nooo, you do realize how large space is right? It's also, not on a flat plane like the earth is ..

It absolutely is clogging up LEO, and multiple space agencies share that opinion. NASA wrote a whole letter on the potential hazards Starlink presents, and the challenges it adds to critical missions.

Yes and spacex addressed those concerns. It's not clogging up anything. Space is massive...and unlike the earth it's on a 3d plain.

The speeds these satellites are moving at make this comparison so bad it's embarrassing. Starlink satellites have accounted for over half of all close calls since they've been in orbit, and when the constellation is done, it's estimated that that number will grow to 90% of all close encounters.

Go look up what a close encounter is...earth has close encounters with big rocks all the damn time, and it misses shit by hundreds of thousands of miles... again space is huge.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

do you know how much shit burns up in our atmosphere yearly? It's a nothing burger.

About 60 tons or so of rock a day, which mostly deposit oxygen, magnesium, and silicon into the atmosphere, with known effects. Once Starlink is fully up, an additional 2 tons of aluminum satellite per day will be burning up in the upper atmosphere, giving off alumina dust and potentially wreaking havoc on the ozone layer and blocking sunlight. It's impossible to know the full effects of that drastic of a change.

Ooo nooo, you do realize how large space is right?

The satellites are in low Earth orbit (LEO) though, a very specific, very small, and very crowded region of space.

Yes and spacex addressed those concerns.

You know what you're right, they did say they'll steer Starlink away from the ISS during docking, how nice of them. Still doesn't address the rest of their concerns in that letter, nor the concerns of the rest of the scientific community.

It's also, not on a flat plane like the earth is ... and unlike the earth it's on a 3d plain.

This is a weird thing to repeat twice. It almost sounds like you think the earth is flat.

Go look up what a close encounter is

Any encounter between two craft that get closer than 1km.

earth has close encounters with big rocks all the damn time,

Again, the "big rocks" that burn up in the Earth's atmosphere have known effects. Also I don't think you know what a close encounter is - the whole world would know if a "big rock" came within 1km of the Earth's surface.

and it misses shit by hundreds of thousands of miles...

Ah, yeah, you have no idea what a close encounter is.

again space is huge.

Again, we're talking about low Earth orbit, a very specific, very small, very crowded region of space. Where the spacecraft there are traveling at speeds up to 30,000 kph. Dismissing all that and just saying "but but space is huge" is ignorant.

[–] PlantObserver@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wow you have alot of patience trying to actually refute/educate this dumbass. Good explanations

[–] Botanicals@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Bless you for having the amount of patience to respond to this elon-bot

[–] cole@lemdro.id 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Starlink is at lower orbits compared to the ISS, there is no conflict with that.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Anything that needs to dock with the ISS will fly through Starlink's orbit to get there. Also docking adjustment maneuvers are usually performed right at Starlink's orbital altitude. It does conflict, or else NASA wouldn't have included it in their letter.