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Too bad about the ~software~ security updates and lack of security features. Might be a good spare phone though
What do you mean by lack of security features? Fairphone promises 5 Android version upgrades and security updates for at least 8 years.
Iirc the chipset, QCM6490, will lose support after 2028 meaning the device will get at least 5 years of security updates and not the promised 8. Pretty sure that's why grapheneOS doesn't/won't support it since the company doesn't keep to their promises
Edit: found grapheneOS' response again I'm not saying Fairphone is a bad company but the way they are advertising the fp5 seems kinda shady IMO based on the specs of the device. At most you'll get partial updates after 5 years since Qualcomm will drop support which is still great but don't assume your device will be as safe as a fully updated device. Then again fairphone may commit to extending the life of the QCM6490 but not sure if they'll be capable of that so we'll just have to see. I apologize to anyone who got offended for some reason I was just expressing my opinion based on the track record of the company and the specs of their device
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Which is why I don't think I'm getting the fp. I don't want to pay a premium price for a less secure phone than one with graphene
Why is it currently being advertised as running Android 13?
Running android puts rather a low ceiling on security and privacy
Edit: ok look y’all, I’m stoked that there are some privacy and security-focused routes for nerds to take, but aggregate security for the average user who goes to a store and buys what the salesperson recommends is an important metric.
https://grapheneos.org
I'll forever be skeptical of a degoogled OS that runs only on phones engineered by Google.
You don't have to use Google services on the fairphone. And if you use it without those, Android is waaaaaaaaay more private than iOS.
iPhones are barely much better than Android phones for privacy or security.
How do push notifications work on Graphene? I am currently using LineageOS with microg services but the experience has been quite rocky
https://calyxos.org
Quite the opposite. Running iOS means you have a device that does whatever Apple tells it to do, nothing more and nothing less. Running Android means you have a plethora of options to choose your level of security and convenience.
Buying this phone as a “spare phone” you very well may never actually need seems to contradict the point of it
That is a 700+ dollar "spare phone". Must be nice. It seems like an ok phone but it's so expensive that the sustainability angle seems like pretense. My last phone (Moto G4 XT1625, Android 7) was $170 and was technologically obsolescent and physically decrepit by the time I replaced it after about 6 years. I'd like to see how many fairphones are still in use after that long.
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You're paying a premium to have a fucking dongle hanging out of your ear
Thats true but I was referring to it being useful for travelers or as a work phone. Just being useful when you don't want to expose your personal device
LineageOS, my friend.
Software updates of the old phone or the fp5?
Crap meant security updates I'll edit it in but their phones overall. The company is notorious for not providing full security updates for the promised length which can end up jeopardizing the customer. Then specifically for the fp5 there's the lack of a secure element and iirc verified boot but I could be mistaken
I'm really sorry I hurt your poor little fee fees 🥺🥺🥺
They provide updates for as long as Apple. More than any other android OEM.
Educate yourself before you attempt to speak with authority.