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Okay folks, it is the off season time for useless debates.

If you could change one thing about F1 (and just one thing you anoraks) what would it be and why?

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[โ€“] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What you're saying about not simply taking away Max' title is probably the reason Mercedes thought better of going to court over this.

You just can't say with 100% certainty that Hamilton would've won the race under different circumstances, it wouldn't hold up in court. The only thing they probably could've achieved would've been to invalidate the race result, but that wouldn't have changed the outcome of the championship.

[โ€“] Tagger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, had the race finished under the safety car as it ought to have done then we can say that Lewis would have won the race and the championship

[โ€“] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'd assume, yes. And I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this would hold up in court. There's a non-zero chance Lewis' car would've died during the last lap driving slowly, for example.

[โ€“] Tagger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, courts don't work on the basis of non-zero chances.

[โ€“] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is that they probably can't "invent" a race result in court by fantasizing about how it could've been.

[โ€“] Tagger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And I'm saying extrapolating one safety car lap forward is not 'fantasizing'

[โ€“] Squeak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, exactly. Nothing to say Lewis wouldnโ€™t have crashed behind the safety car. Unlikely? Sure. But not guaranteed. Iโ€™m happy for max and I feel sorry for him that it will always be brought up alongside his first title. There will always be that imaginary asterisks there.

Someone else commented that it would have been the same if it was the other way and it was Max that got screwed. I agree, I think it was just Masi trying to make it exciting. But that doesnโ€™t change the fact it was completely wrong.