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I want a new PC in the foreseeable future, so here I am asking for advice

Here's some basic info about my current build
-Processor: i7-7700
-RAM: 32 GB DDR4 (originally they were 16GB, but one module died and I had to buy new ram modules)
-Graphic Card: RTX 3060 (originally it was the GTX 1060 3GB but it died too)
-Motherboard: Asus Z270H
-Case: Zalman Z11 plus. I hate it, it's ugly, I did not chose it (they didn't had in stock the one I bought and gave me that one instead) and cleaning it is a pain in the ass

I'm planning in changing teams, leaving Nvidia, Intel and Windows behind for AMD and Linux

I can't afford a high end PC, but it will be a gaming PC, so let's stay in the middle (more or less in line of what my current build was 6-7 years ago)

The thing is Idk much about AMD (I've been inside the Nvidia bubble for too long), are they going to launch new hardware (procesors and graphic cards) soon? should I wait? will the wait be worth? (yeah, sorry. those are the eternal questions, I know never is the right moment to upgrade)

I DON'T have any interest in most AAA graphic intensive games (like GTA VI) there are some exceptions, (like the next Monster Hunter) but I rarelly play AAA games (In general I'm more into a A or AA games) so here it is possible to cut some corners a little

Ok, those questions were a little bit generic and I can investigate on my own, you can ignore them, but I have some questions a little bit more specific

I have a PCIe 3.0 NVME M.2 SSD and a Samsumg EVO 870 EVO (Sata 2.5'') I'll like to reuse in the new build. would it be possible? are new motherboads (with PCIe 5 or 6) backwards compatible? (asking about the M.2 SSD that uses PCIe 3.0 mainly, the other one is a normal Sata SSD) I plan to buy a newer (and faster) M.2 SSD too, but the extra storage is always welcome even if it's slower

About the case I just want a simple case, easy to clean and as silent as possible (so the bigger the fans the better) with plenty of room inside so it's easy to work with it when I need to do some maintenance like cleaning or replacing something, I don't need RGB nor a glass window nor all the fancy stuff so what do you recommend?

Another dilemma I have is the screen, it's so old it it only has a DVI port!! (SyncMaster BX2335) but still works, is full HD and its size is 23'' I don't have room for a much bigger screen so idk if 1440p or 4k screens are worth, tbh.

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[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Given that you're on a budget I would seriously consider keeping that 3060 for the moment. You can plan on a case and power supply upgrade that would handle a more powerful card sometime in the future.

For a CPU I would take a look at the AMD Ryzen 7800X3D. The 3D cache tech from AMD is pretty huge for gaming performance.

[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

@TheOneCurly

Yeah, the thing is I'm having issues with nvidia drivers when I use linux. People often say AMD support for linux is better than Nvidia's and since my current build does not support Windows 11 (win10 support ends next year) I think it's time for an upgrade since I can't properly use linux and win 10 is going to stop receiving updates

About the budget, I can spend around 1100 or 1200€ for a whole new PC (but not that amount in a single graphic card)

[–] enbee@compuverse.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

wait til the next gen of CPUs and GPUs hit, then get a 7800x3D with am5 motherbord and a 7800 XT

[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

@enbee

Do we know when AMD is going to launch the new hardware?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'd recommend an AMD card for Linux use too, with the possible exception of doing AI stuff, but plenty of people do use Nvidia cards on Linux. I've used them before. It's not unusable, if you want to continue to use your existing card.

And you can always just make your next upgrade down the line an AMD GPU. I mean, GPUs do age out if you're going to be playing games.

One other reason to keep the GPU is that if you're fine with your existing monitor, you don't have to deal with finding a GPU with DVI output.

Maybe at some point down the line, when your current GPU doesn't perform adequately, get a new DisplayPort monitor and GPU together.

[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@tal

The thing is I tried linux and I have issues. To the point Wayland gives me less headaches than xorg (and nvidia drivers still do not support wayland. Yeah, that bad)

I had bad luck with my specific hardware configuration and linux

Another issue is Microsoft and the end of Win10 support later next year (my hardware is not compatible with Win11, I can't update). It's the perfect storm

Also my current GPU does not have DVI neither (I have a HDMI to DVI cable, so that's not really a problem) it's more about missing modern features (like freesync) and the whole pc being "limited" (not in the literal sense, I know monitors don't cause bottlenecks) by the old screen

[–] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

nvidia drivers still do not support wayland.

You can definitely run Wayland with an Nvidia GPU. I have on a 3060 Ti, on Debian, before I switched to an AMD card. And I also ran xorg with it.

IIRC Sway, a Wayland compositor that I use, didn't earlier in the year, back when I tried it, but it's not the only compositor out there, and I'm guessing -- perhaps incorrectly -- that if you're doing the jump from Windows to Linux, that you aren't concurrently switching to a tiling desktop environment anyway.

Also my current GPU does not have DVI neither (I have a HDMI to DVI cable, so that’s not really a problem) it’s more about missing modern features (like freesync) and the whole pc being “limited” (not in the literal sense, I know monitors don’t cause bottlenecks) by the old screen

Fair enough. Was just saying that if you do want to keep it, you should be able to do so.

[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

@tal

Yeah, you can use wayland on nvidia (like I said wayland give me less headaches than xorg), but the drivers do not support it officially

I posted my issues in the official forums of a couple of linux distros, followed the instructions they gave me and the conclussion was that my speciffic hardware configurarion does not get along with linux for whatever reason