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[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Never use an app for what should be a web page.

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That would be all apps then. Apps are legitimately great. Websites do the same scummy things.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

Apps are legitimately great.

Except they are mostly just lobotomized websites where you can't copy the text or save media to your local device.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But it's blockable on websites. Firefox with ublock makes YouTube, Facebook, and instragam a relatively pleasant experience again.

[–] serratur@lemmy.wtf 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is other apps like newpipe or grayjay, i havent experienced any ads using them

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

And I know folks that have never lost money on crypto. Doesn't make crypto less of a risk.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

websites are sandboxed while apps have almost full access. So, no, they don't.

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What does that mean? I don't understand. Apps have full access to what that websites don't?

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. A website has to download ALL the HTML every time. Sure, it can put all that in a JavaScript file and cache it but it has to be built each time. With an app, you (the devs) get to choose what to load, and it’s just usually a few simple things each time instead of constantly running a script.

Using Lemmy as a web app really sucked. Having an actual app with actual integration to a robust UI works.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plus as an app developer you get to go through the user's contacts and files. Having an actual app locks you and allows you to be the product the app owners sell. Nothing else and certainly nothing of value for 99% of the apps out there.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apple does not allow this out of the box. You have to confirm for every permission. There is not automatic access to files.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And yet you said yes when asked.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Huh? I don’t give apps like YouTube access to my files. I don’t upload so they don’t need it. I don’t even think it has asked because I’m not clicking the upload button. YouTube doesn’t get access to my location either. It does have access to local connections because of YouTube on my TV, but that’s it.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, you are claiming that youtube plays without the rights to save anything? If you say so.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you know how sandboxed file system storage works? Have you ever made an application? Do you think things that run on the cloud have access to everything else on the cloud? I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"I don’t give apps like YouTube access to my files"

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I don’t understand what you’re getting at or trying to say. You’re not making sense.