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[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's part of my point. We don't require old people to do anything other than... exist for a while? And yet when you start taking about young people all these qualifications start coming out. But stupid people get old too, and nobody keeps them away from the polls.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Agreed. And it's good that we aren't keeping those away. Always a slippery slope to make rules about who can or can't vote.

Honestly I might even go as far as stripping down the requirements to the very basics:

  • Citizenship (including special cases that e.g. EU citizens can vote in regional elections of other EU countries if they live there)

  • the desire to vote

Just let them start voting when they express their desire to do so.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you are too young to work you shouldn't have to vote I think, but if you can get a job you should be able to vote. This of course won't solve all the parties being shit tho.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you are too young to work you shouldn’t have to vote

Makes it sound like a chore, not sure if that was intended. The phrasing however somewhat leads to another completely different discussion, whether or not it would be a good idea to require everyone to vote (even if they just mark their ballot invalid) to combat low voter turnouts.

But as with other arguments, we again don't tie voting rights to having a job otherwise we would deny them from the elderly or sick aswell. I think in this context the argument is sometimes made that when you have a job you are forced to pay taxes and therefore should be allowed to vote, but there are other taxes like sales tax that everybody pays earlier.

This of course won’t solve all the parties being shit tho.

Now that is the truth.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I meant if you are too young to work you shouldn't be able to vote, but forgot about people too old or sick too work yeah.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I feel like this reasoning would change character of the right to vote from something inherent, to something that has to be earned. Which i am not really a fan of.