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Freed Israeli hostages held by Hamas were terrified IDF airstrikes would kill them
(www.businessinsider.com)
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What's your source for this?
8 October 1 day after the attack. already in the newspapers : Hamas Demands Total Prisoner Release, Leaving Israel in a Catch-22
The demands are higher since Hamas rejected israel's demand of only alive hostages. The ceasefire ended because the israelis didn't want the dead Bibas family back that they bombed themselves.
Also you don't remember Netanyahu screaming "no hostage swap and no ceasefire" for 40 days straight until he had to bdcause he achieved nothing?
Are you referring to the demand to release "all Palestinian prisoners" in exchange for the hostages? That would have been a ratio of Palestinian prisoners to Israeli hostages much less favorable to Israel than the ratio they actually got during the ceasefire.
But, based on your own justification, that would be fine, wouldn't it? At least they'd have the hostages back alive, right? That's justified because you get the people back alive, right?
Or can you only justify killing with the return of hostages?
My justification of what? The airstrikes? I'm not justifying them by by connecting them to the release of the hostages - I think they're justified as part of the war that's going on and their effect on hostage negotiations is secondary.
The best strategy for winning the war is not the same as the best strategy for getting the hostages back. Netanyahu appears to be prioritizing winning the war and for that he's getting a lot of criticism from people who would prioritize getting the hostages back. I'm just saying that this particular criticism, which focuses on the counterfactual scenario in which the hostages that have been released were killed by airstrikes instead, is not reasonable. After all, they weren't killed and they're free now; in their case, Israeli policy has been successful.
They are not just demanding the Palestinian prisoners. They also demand the release of all Palestinian hostages kidnapped by israel.
The ratio during the ceasefire was for non-combatants. Zero soldiers have been exchanged so far.
Looking at past conflicts israeli soldiers have gone for a 3-1000 rate and Hamas currently has like 60 soldiers in captivity.
I love how you're not questioning why Israel has political prisoners.
I didn't use the word "political" anywhere.
A large number of Palestinian prisoners is political prisoners held without trial.