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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you think Trump is going to bring a halt to genocide you're delusional. Vote Trump in and the genocide will continue or escalate. The GOP will escalate persecution of your countrymen and will further dismantle our democracy.

All the shit Trump did, locking kids in cages, rampant corruption, constant stream of lies, bungled foreign policy, stochastic terrorism. None of that crosses the line for you.

Or is it that you're more about the symbolism of your vote than its real world effects?

[–] ikanreed@mastodon.social -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

@agent_flounder I'm not going to choose between two different far right genocidal monsters.

There's no rhetorical game here. What you're asking me to do is an evil my conscience won't bear, and yours will because of your moral cowardice.

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago

Messy. Damnable. Pragmatism is hell, not cowardice. Trump is not a clay that can be worked on. He will go all in with what Israel is doing. With no alternative, if the lesser evil saves a life I'll shake hands with it and kiss it on either cheek.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Good grief. Obviously acting in bad faith here rather than actually engaging and discussing. Hopefully few people in battleground states fall for all the people pushing this line on social media.

Fellow citizens, I don't have to tell you genocide is disgusting. We need to be demanding of our reps and president to put a stop to the genocide here and Sudan both.

Hopefully nobody has to be told that the US has a long history of horrific foreign policy decisions (look up Kissinger or various coups we initiated or wars we started) that kill people by the millions either directly or indirectly. It's up to us peons to fight this, fight the corruption that runs rampant, and fight to make our democracy work more for us than the Uber rich and powerful. Tale as old as time. It took decades to get us here and it will take decades to unfuck things.

But we are all fucked if if the GOP is allowed to implement Project 2025. It will be even more destructive to our institutions and democracy than the first Trump Presidency.