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[–] Sacha@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You say that like they didnt legalize gay marriage, elect LGBTQ allies, strengthen and protect abortion laws in response to the roe vs wade overturner, and legalize pot. And that's just to name a few.

Oh and you don't lose your house if you have to go to the hospital without insurance.

Say what you will about Mexico, but in some aspects it's more advanced than United States. At least when it comes to the red states.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything like that in my statement. I also didn't imply anything like that in my statement.

Don't put words into people's mouths.

[–] Sacha@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honey, you don't need to outright say something for the implications and subtext to be there.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And sometimes there isn't subtext. Or you just absolutely miss the fucking point.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Would that really suprise you coming from Mexico? Like good on the people to elect them, and respect for being them for open about who they are, but the country has some serious issues and this isn't near the top of the list unfortunately.

What exactly did you mean by this? Because it sure reads like you're saying "Mexico is unfriendly towards LGBTQ+", because you think this shouldn't be surprising "coming from Mexico".

There is evidence for a counterpoint to this implied statement: that Mexico is not unfriendly to LGBTQ+, but your response to that evidence was "I didn't say they didn't (enact legal protections, etc etc), don't put words in my mouth", so what exactly did you mean by what I quoted from you?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In a country that has a high amount of politically motivated violence, an elected official (especially one that would be progressive) being killed isn't really a surprise to me.

Legal protections does not equal a friendly attitude. As I have experienced in my country (as we have had legal same sex marriage since 2005, and being allowed to serve in the CAF since 1992 as LGBTQIA+ individuals and being the second country legalise pot nationwide, second to Uruguay).

We still get warnings about kidnapping and cartel violence when we book trips to resorts there (among all the other warnings like the water isn't exactly safe).

So yeah, a memeber of my community being murdered while in a position of power in Mexico isn't that big of a surprise. My initial thoughts was this was cartel violence. And apparently one of the AGs in the region demonstrated a lack of empathy or corruption in thier initial statement. But it could be violence against them for being NB.

So yeah, sad but not a shock.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Right, so, you do mean "violence against LGBTQ+ people is unsurprising from Mexico"; so the other poster wasn't putting words in your mouth, they correctly interpreted your meaning.

What they said was

you say that like they haven't [passed all these progressive laws]

You gave a very valid and pithy response here:

Legal protections does not equal a friendly attitude.

Glad we could clear that up! 😊