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The negative reaction to this kind of thing baffles me. I see it as a neat new feature that'll make my life easier. But if for whatever reason you don't like it... don't use it. No biggie.
Yeah, it's not like Microsoft's style to force or nag their users into using whatever product. Nobody ever had any trouble turning off Onedrive, or uninstalling Edge.
We remember Cortana. Hard to not think about it and not expect a similar quality of implementation.
Even today while disabled I continue to open Cortana by mistake... Which won't work since it's disabled...
Just this morning I was noodling through my start menu, as you do, and on a lark I right clicked and uninstalled Cortana. (This is on Windows 10.) Windows has never allowed me to do that before. You could disable it, you could hide it, but you could not uninstall it. The option just was not there. Some update somewhere along the line enabled an actual uninstall and I don't know which one.
Immediately I had a hunch they were planning to replace it with some new bullshit. That's the only reason Microsoft would ever let it go.
There are many things on Windows people don't like: Preinstalled bloatware, Edge, Microsoft spyware. As you simply cannot disable them under Windows, the only way not to use them is to upgrade to Linux, it seems.
If it follows the same pattern for all MS features, there will be a check box to turn it off, but it will be on by default. So if you don't like it, turn it off and save your outrage, like me, for the absence of a vertical taskbar in Windows 11.
turn feature off
windows needs to update
feature mysteriously turned back on
repeat ad nauseam
Yeah I feel like people are being surprisingly optimistic about this
I genuinely feel most of them are Microsoft bots.
There are some dark patterns in the setup experience that might cause that.
Turn off the "Show me the Windows welcome experience after updates..." and the "Suggest ways I can finish setting up..." options in settings.
I bet if you're having preferences change on you, it's because you're clicking ok or next without reading during these nag screens.
No. I have definitely had the "suggest ways to finish setting up" setting revert itself after quarterly Windows feature updates. There was no prompt and it never asked me. It also reverts my fast startup setting, which on my particular motherboard causes Windows to take half an hour to boot. So I tend to notice that one when it changes the setting behind my back.
I find this immensely irritating. (The "finish setting up" option is the one that causes it to nag you every ~5 startups to create a Microsoft account, if you are using a local account like a sane person.)
You can disable these in Group Policy Editor, if you are running Windows 10 Pro or any of its myriad enterprise versions, and have admin permissions. If you do that insofar as I have observed they stay disabled. If you are running Win10 home, I believe the trick still works where you can steal a copy of the Group Policy snap-in (gpedit.msc) from a Pro copy of Windows via flash drive or whatever and just plonk it in your Windows folder, and it works.
Super dumb they don't have it by default, but there are third party projects to patch the functionality in at least
As long as it's not running in the background using a single bit of my RAM then I'm fine with it tbh.
Narrator: it was running in the background in his RAM.
Yeah when stuff like that happens I start going through my install to get vengance. Eventually I intend to keep this machine as a windows machine and build my next computer with linux.