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[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I heard that the word “liberty” doesn’t have a universal meaning. The colonists saw Liberty as freedom from British, to do business as they wish with less regulation. The Chinese saw Liberty as a group effort to free themselves from the yoke of feudalism. Hot take, but I don’t like using the word “liberty” in political contexts because of how vastly the definition changes country by country. It’s an abstract ideal.

[–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

nowdays when people spit liberty, most of the time is to be racist

And during Covid’s height, “Liberty” meant getting others sick and not being considerate by being vaccinated. I’m so sick of the word “liberty”. Just wait 15-30 years in your current country (or go to another country) to see the definition of the word change drastically and unrecognizably.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Actually it's edgelord humor."

Yeah, you can be an 2016-style edgelord without being racist.

[–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

then go on complaining about george soros woke globalist agenda, that you can't tell innocent jokes anymore and how it was better in the good ol' days that u could say any racist slur and nobody would get offended by it

The worst part is that they don't even understand what edgelord comedy is.

The best example of edgelord comedy imo is a big chunk of "Stinkmaner Strikes Back" from the Boondocks, I laughed my ass off at the idea of someone being so racist that Satan himself sent them back to earth back just to be racist again... only to be defeated by being chill.

I say "a big chunk of" because in some sections I can't get the punchline to laugh at like the exorcism scene.

And when I say "2016-style edgelord without being racist" , I mean as long as the punchline can be understood as not being reactionary or bigoted even 2016-style shock humor up to and including ones that would uh... leave some of us speechless to say the least... would be fine in my books.

Though you should be careful or your meme becomes the next Moon Man.

[–] Bricked@lemdro.id -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you know what most peoples intentions are?

Answer: Analyzing their comment.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't like it because USAmericans think they're special because their constitution talks about liberty, as if every other country's constitution says ”yeah, tyranny for us please, liberty sucks”.

Just tell them the DPRK constitution says every citizen has equal rights troll

I mean I’ll just leave the argument if a lib comes to a “liberty” for all point. I don’t doubt the DPRK says it in their constitution, but I also don’t doubt that Saudi Arabia and England and Ukraine probably also have empty platitudes about liberty. End of the day it doesn’t further any political agenda or talking points, it’s like saying “we aren’t treated fair, let’s change things!” Without expressing WHAT those things are that are unfair and HOW they would go about fixing society

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

DPRK constitution says every citizen has equal rights

For what it’s worth, the US constitution does not actually say this — even the Fourteenth Amendment doesn’t go that far. That’s why US states can get away with depriving felons the right to vote — it never guaranteed that right.