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[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OK, so by your same logic, if Egypt had a huge turn of heart, suddenly plowed through Israel, expelled all its residents, they wouldn't have a right to return either, right? Let's even say Israel started a war first, and then that happened. That'd be OK by your standards, right?

Not to even imply your standards are correct, because they're fucking horrific, you're trying to justify ethnic cleansing.

and the arabs sided with the Nazis in WW2.

You might be thinking of Lehi, the pre-Israeli militant group that got incorporated into the IDF.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No.

First of all Egypt has fought many wars against Israel.... It is after Israel defeated them that they were willing to accept peace deals.

And what you fail to grasp is it is the arabs who started a war, tried to destroy Israel and kill Jews, and since they are dangerous were forced to leave and since they openly say they wish to destroy Israel are not allowed to return. Should Israel let them return to destroy Israel ?

You don't seem able to accept the fact that from the outset Jews were willing to live in peace with arbas and the Muslims were not. No matter how far back you go- you can go back to 1948, you can go back the ottoman and Egyptian caliphates which had discriminatory laws against Jews. You can go back to ancient history and look at the fundamental aspects of the religion. Islam is a fascist religion, it says to conquer the entire world in the name of islam. That just like in Iran and Gaza that they kill gays, they kill a woman who doesn't cover her head, that a small group fundamentalists control the entire economy and use every resource for terrorism, so to should it be in the rest of the world. The modem state of Israel is not government by religious Judaism and if it was, Judaism does not say the entire world needs to be Jewish.

Islam is fascist, that's why there is this conflict along with all the other conflicts they have with many nations, with the west, with India etc... With themselves with shia and sunni...

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wish blocks on this site worked the right way.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

Hey I appreciate you took the time to respond and at least make arguments, you have more intellect than 99% of the site which isn't saying much

But you have far to go, if you want to increase your intellect you have to accept facts and truth even if it challenges what you have as an established belief. That is why you have a hard time to debate me, because I have heard the arguments and adjusted my views many times.

You should ask yourself why you are such an expert on the israeli-pal conflict and probably don't know as much as the complex histories of Lebanon, syria, Iraq... All the sectarian violence, expulsions, terrorism, oppression etc... what happened in Lebanon when they tried a joint Muslim christian nation. Or the entire continent of Africa, you'll find that the pals are really not the greatest tragedy of humanity and yet it is all the UN seems to be concerned about, all the slogan yelling mob cares about.