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The Chrome team says they're not going to pursue Web Integrity but...

it is piloting a new Android WebView Media Integrity API that’s “narrowly scoped, and only targets WebViews embedded in apps.”

They say its because the team "heard your feedback." I'm sure that's true, and I can wildly speculate that all the current anti-trust attention was a factor too.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 193 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Both leaving reddit and leaving google s.e. were two things that I thought would be harder than they were.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 66 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Just need to install Linux as your primary OS and your transition to software freedom will be complete.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Doing so on the desktop is easy enough. Getting rid of Android appears to be a much harder challenge, though.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 45 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Android is opensource. You can get phones that support ROMs like LineageOS (would recommend a FairPhone) or /e/ (godawful name, good ROM) for example - you can buy the Murena phone for this.

Linux phones are about 5 years away from mainstream usability, IMO.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

I'm really looking forward to Linux phones. Have been for years. It's sad that Mozilla and Canonicals ventures didn't pan out because both had really fun ideas. Hell I say they had the right ideas, it just wasn't the right time.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Until banking apps except the use of custom ROMs it will be a major stumbling block to switching to them.

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I've never had an issue using banking apps from Lineage. I use 3 different pretty mainstream ones

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have 3 banking apps installed right now through Aurora Store (FLOSS access to Google Store). They work fine. The only bank that didn't like my degoogled phone, I dropped.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Monesse, Monzo and Revolut all refused to work for me. They're mobile-only banks so maybe that's the reason.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Revolut has worked for me no problem 🤔 What problems did you face?

[–] mark@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago

I second the recommendation for Fairphone w/ CalyxOS. Feels just like having a Google Pixel running Android. Just way way more private.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Linux phones are about 5 years away from mainstream usability, IMO.

Is this gonna turn into a new meme?

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

I’ve tried running Replicant and degoogled Lineage OS on an old Samsung phone many years ago. The experience was a bit rough, but tolerable as long as you’re a tech enthusiast and willing to make some sacrifices. Back then it wasn’t quite acceptable to me, because my bank app didn’t work. Then they announced that they were going to phase out the old code paper, so authentication through a mobile app was seen as the only acceptable method going forward.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I have tried /e/ os, I have found it to be meh

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Fingers crossed that linux gets better support and development on phones

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy has a hate boner for Apple but iOS is dope

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apple is not much different than Google

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Heaps better when it comes to data collection and privacy, if you’re concerned about that.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

their privacy policy is not much different.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You’re arguing in favor of an advertising company?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

You appear to be doing something similar.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I can reccommend graphene os however u need a pixel for that

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 46 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Leaving google isn't hard.

Leaving YouTube specifically, however... Well, it's been getting easier as content seems to be less and less frequent or quality.

[–] AnotherOne@feddit.de 27 points 10 months ago

I use piped/newpipe etc. and simply support creators i watch via patreon/direct donations/merch. Less money for shitty ad company more money for creatives.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (6 children)

This is true, I still use youtube and I don't see it changing soon since there are no viable alternatives.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Closest I'd say would be a service like Odysee. Can't really say whether their practices are better than yt or not, but I can at least confirm I've found a few channels I don't wanna sub to on yt also have accounts on Odysee. As to whether or not they made those accounts/channels is a different story.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Peer tube but no one actually makes content for it far as I can tell.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 1 points 10 months ago

and you can't watch content from other instances right?

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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Leaving YouTube specifically,

https://grayjay.app/

I've been using it. It's actually pretty great.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Nebula is a good alternative

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I still worry that leaving Reddit is going to make it tilt to the right. I spent a decade posting there in the hopes that it would nudge people towards sanity.

[–] livus@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think it probably already is somewhat, but there comes a point where trying to change the system from within becomes futile and complicit.

I'd rather be out here making a better place.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The right use it and all other social media sites for coordinated disinformation. No matter how much you try to combat it you're going up against people/ideas with deep pockets and a lot of resources meaning your voice is just a drop in the bucket.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Sure, but there are a lot more of us, and we make more sense.

It's important to present people with the contrasting view when they're presented with disinformation. It's natural to believe the first thing you read if it's just a narrative with no dissent.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

leaving reddit is easy leaving google is pretty damn difficult

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The hard part is the cost difference (I haven't looked terribly deeply yet) Family Proton (3TB) is 395 AUD (when you sign up for 2 years)

2 TB, 125 AUD per year for google drive, and it's per year.

Pro-rata that's literally twice as expensive, and you have to sign up for 2 years to get that rate, which makes moving my stuff a hard pill to swallow :(

Is there a plug and play service that's as good as proton without the hefty premium?

(The single plans are even more steep, 24 months, 158 AUD per year for only 500 GB...)