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[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As much of a win as this is, there are any number of normal battlefield conditions and reasons this could've happened, that aren't just "HAHA RUSSIAN MILITARY DUMB"

  1. Electronic warfare systems are typically cycled to allow friendly forces to use the spectrums they jam. These schedules are timed by counter-EW teams.
  1. Missles and bombs often have multiple guidance systems e.g. the GMLRS fired by HIMARS/M270 MLRS both GPS and intertial guidance systems.
  1. HARM (Anti-radiation missiles) could have been deployed to force the Russians to kill active radar systems of the SAM battery protecting this system.
  1. Laser guidance from special forces, or local partisan group, could have provided the targeting.
  1. The story itself could be part of an information or counter-intelligence operation to hide real means and methods used, or trick Russian military/intelligence.

And these are just a few reasons why while this is a win, should probably not be used as confirmation bias to underestimate Russia's capabilities.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It doesn't change that "HAHA RUSSIAN MILITARY DUMB" either though.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's just not accurate, and honestly, it's dangerous.

Yes, the Russian military is deeply flawed and at times, comically tragic in its errors, but it's still a lethal organization that has shown itself capable of learning and adapting.

That attitude is most concerning because the unsaid, but logical next point is, "then why hasn't Ukraine won? Are they HAHA DUMB as well?"

You may not be thinking that, but that is what pumping that idea out into the ether leads to.

Yes, they have made mind boogling choices at times, but at other times, they've shown high levels competence and the ability to change and evolve their tactics, much to the detriment of Ukrainian forces.

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