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Don’t fall into the trap of ‘picking sides’ over Gaza: Hamas’s attacks were unconscionable, razing Gaza to the ground would be abhorrent. In both cases, basic humanity is at stake --- [Opinion] (feddit.de)

submitted 11 months ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/news@beehaw.org

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Cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/5185724

Original link is here: https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/world/israel/gaza-war/63691/alan-rusbridger-gaza-war-israel-hamas

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[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The article opens with "what about America's response to 9/11?". JFC, what a shitty justification. America was clearly wrong to war crime all over Iraq just as Israel is in the wrong for warcriming all over Palestine. I refuse to "both sides" imperialists and their victims. Frankly, "both sides" is the trap one should avoid.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Iraq

Afghanistan, Iraq was later and about fake WMDs.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Iraq was also a consequence of 9/11. It would never have happened without it.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Arguable, Iraq was Bush Jr. finishing what his father started in the late 80s. It may well have happened even without 9/11. Afghanistan however was a direct consequence of 9/11, and is a more apt metaphor for what Israel is doing now.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

I think Bush would want to do it, but would never have been able to get the go along without the war fever.

[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, first was Afghanistan. But the Iraq invasion was still under the "war on terror". Besides, I was simply referring to the author's argument:

But he added that we had to consider what the US did when attacked on 9/11: it invaded Iraq, with 200,000 [his figures] killed in three years.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Iraq may well have been invaded even without 9/11, as it was Bush Jr. finishing what his father started in the late 80s.

The direct consequence of 9/11 was Afghanistan, and thus is a more apt metaphor for what is happening with Israel right now.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's no point raising a metaphor in the first place. A metaphor doesn't justify anything. It's just a rhetorical tool that is supposed to help deliver a point. However, all it does in this instance is mess and draw confusion.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Look at the OP's domain and then ask yourself why their post might have nazi vibes to it.