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[โ€“] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not add qualifications to the statements I made, they started like that,. how many times can I say that from the beginning I was talking about one type of Vegan. I also never assumed everyone was working off the same definition, only that the one I used was eqully valid. Again you seem upset I started with a clearly defined a scope, and i don't think you'd find an actual teacher that would take issue with that. Knowing you like to argue online makes plenty of sense for how much issue you take with that. Thers absolutely nothing wrong with speaking within a scope you've defined from the very beginning, ask a real teacher that.

[โ€“] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not add qualifications later to the statements I made, they started like that

Text posts on Lemmy have a "Body" field to them. You did not put anything in the body of this text post. Ergo, you added qualifications later to the question in comments. Which is classic goalpost moving, by the way.

I also never assumed everyone was working off the same definition, only that the one I used was eqully valid.

If you pose a question like "Is doing X vegan" and you don't immediately provide a working definition, you are implicitly assuming everyone shares the same definition as you. That's how language tends to work. Like, imagine if someone asked you "what's the largest planet in our solar system" and you said "Jupiter" and then they responded "Actually, no, the largest planet is the Sun," you would probably say "the Sun is not a planet." If they said, "well, my definition of a planet is anything round and in space, so according to my definition the Sun is a planet," then you would probably say, "okay, then we have different working definitions of what constitutes a planet. Maybe you should have lead with that."

Again you seem upset I started with a clearly defined a scope

I'm annoyed by the fact that you clearly didn't and made it up as you got push back from people who gave you an answer you didn't like.

Thers absolutely nothing wrong with speaking within a scope youโ€™ve defined from the very beginning.

Except, you didn't. You added that in replies after people answered your question in a way you didn't like. Like I know taking criticism is hard, especially from strangers on the internet, but you didn't frame this conversation correctly initially and then added important details after the fact, which is just not productive. You may not like it, but I'm trying to help you be a better conversationalist. Also, if you wanna have real discussions, don't do it on mobile. Bust out something with a real keyboard.

[โ€“] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Text posts on Lemmy have a "Body" field to them. You did not put anything in the body of this text post.

Well the main reason I didn't put anything in the body of this text post is because im not the one who made this text post lmfao, but at least know I know where this disconnect im perceiving is coming from. You think im someone im not.