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I’m convinced people that use Apple products don’t care that much about which connector is used, it’s mostly non Apple users that have a hard on about fighting the man. People in the ecosystem already have a lightning cable, those entering it will likely get one with their device, just like you get a USB-C with a non Apple devices. I get the need to standardize, but the amount of coverage and passion it gets seems so silly.
You are describing me. I don’t give 2 fuck about the type c changing port, I have a ton of good lighting cable. Also plug-in a lighting cable is more satisfy than a type c, it has that click-sound when I plug in.
I like that my new phone has USB-C, but yeah, I basically have a bunch of perfectly good lightning cables, some of them more than 10 years old, that are now e-waste. We spent $100 buying new cables, because we didn't have enough to cover all the places we normally stash chargers away for convenience (cars, couch, home office, etc.)
It's definitely better in the long run, but this felt more like ripping off a bandaid. The bigger deal for me is 10gbps speeds letting me shoot pro res footage straight to an attached SSD, but this is a pretty niche use case.
Now you can join the rest of the world and pay much less for cables and chargers. The $100 was a sunk cost that Apple stole from you. It's gone. Sell the cables with your old phone.
The USB-C cables I just bought were not any cheaper than my lightning cables. In fact, I think they were actually a bit more expensive, because I only opted for cables that are certified for 100w power delivery and some of them for USB 3.1 speeds.
This makes no sense, lightning cables always worked with ordinary usb chargers.
You can get a 6ft USB C cable for $4:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=38885
You would need 25 of them to spend more than $100. Are you just buying the USB C cable from Apple? That might be the problem.
Those are 58% off right now, their regular price is $10. The regular price for the lightning version of these Monoprice cables is also $10. Right now i can see a three pack of 6 foot lightning cables on Amazon for $8.40, or $2.80 per cable. The benefit to switching is solely because of convenience and standardization, it is not saving me any money.
I also spent a lot more on some of my USB-C cables because i wanted them to support 3.1 speeds. That costs a lot if you only go for USB-IF certified cables, which you probably should if you’re plugging them in to anything expensive.
Ok, I'm just going to stop talking to you because you have no idea about the differences between cables. Your Amazon link is for USB A-to-Lightning cables (which charge slowly because it's USB A) and the brand name is "Tryeah".
And you are comparing them to my nylon braided Monoprice cord with a lifetime warranty? I can see why you paid too much for cables. I was just trying to help you but you've got to be right. Enjoy your "Tryeah" brand cables.
I literally bought monoprice cables (because they are actually USB-IF certified, unlike most) and here you are saying i don’t know how to buy cables.
Those 6’ cables were not on sale when i bought them, and it’s totally unfair for you to compare their sale price to the non-sale price of monoprices lightning version of the exact same cable.
The purpose of the cables on amazon was to show that the lightning connector does not have a substantial impact on price. It’s easy to find cheap lightning cables, even ones that are MFi certified.
I’ve debunked your claims one by one, and you’re trying to weasel out of them on technicalities rather than actually addressing the points you can’t defend.
You’re entirely right
I have to do more work to switch from lightning to USB-C because very little to none of my devices use it. More use lightning because I’m already in the Apple ecosystem.
The people I see complaining about it are almost, but not always, android users
Honestly. And the same people complaining about e-waste are the same people who want an accessory to switch cables.
Over the long term, unifying cables reduces e-waste. In the short term it does not.
Someone who uses Apple products chiming in, you're right on. I have a magic keyboard which I occasionally use with my iMac (although I've been using Logitech's peripherals more recently and been extremely happy) and if I put the politics of it all beside me, I don't care. I'll just grab my lightning cable to charge up my keyboard once a month.