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Here's a few options I have...
Save as much as possible and take it all to much cheaper countries. Vietnam, Indonesia, etc you can live for years on the savings from a year or so of work.
Buy cheap land and homestead
Monastery or communal living
Volunteer with WWOOF or workaway long term
Work seasonally take the rest off. Firewatch, ski bum, etc
FIRE as mentioned in another comment. Takes a longer time but if you are super frugal and have a high salary actually very doable in 5-10 years. I suggest looking at mr money moustache.
Also dropping out. Look up how to drop out there's an old famous article about it.
Overall read Early retirement extreme it gives lots of good ideas too.
After looving at various possibilities for a few years I am much more hopeful cause I realized there are tons of realistic options!
No, please don't do this. You're hurting the natives living there. The same happened to countries north of southern America. Rent skyrocketed when techbros started moving there during remote work.
And no, FIRE does not work for minimum wage and underestimated workers. It works for people who have "high status" jobs. Like a doctor, or a engineer. I've lived imporvished, we've been extremely frugal. No AC, no washing machine, no climate control, no TV, no PlayStation, none of the stuff considered privileged. None of the expensive "superfoods" - just simple boiled rice with curd and pickles. It does not work. We also do not have any insurance. Just 4 lacs in the bank, and in case of an emergency, we are fucked up.
Yeah fire definitely requires a good salary as I said.
I think it depends, you're not always hurting the locals. Often there's expat areas in cities that are more expensive but more local areas stay cheap. Also you can support locals by buying from there businesses. I've been travelling southeast asia lots and the majority of locals tell us they like the tourists and expats because they allow them to make much more money.
I would think long and hard about spending years in a foreign country. While admittedly I haven't done so myself, I've traveled to some of the kinds of countries you're thinking of and talked to and observed expats in those places and it seems awfully lonely. There's a cultural and, I assume, language barriers that'll make you feel like an outsider. You may find a community of others like yourself, but still you're likely to struggle to make meaningful relationships. Sure, working for the man sucks. But I'd argue crushing loneliness might be worse.
Of course I'm applying my wants/needs and my experiences to your situation. Maybe that's not a concern for you. Maybe it'll be the best thing you ever did. But it warrants consideration. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Also something to be mindful of is in some countries foreign individuals can't own land.
Yeah that could definitely be an issue. On the other hand though its a great way to learn a language and meet people living very different lives. Also most young people nowadays speak english and want to speak it with foreigners so its easy to mave friends that way. Plus there's lots of expat groups and meetups so actually pretty easy to find likeminded people.