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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 185 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Since I've never heard of him, here are some of Mike Johnson's political stances. In favor of:

A nationwide abortion ban.

A nationwide ban on gay marriage.

Heavy restrictions on medical marijuana prescriptions and a ban on recreational marijuana.

Ending military aid to Ukraine.

Gay conversion therapy.

Federal law against gender affirming care for those under 18.

Eliminating funding for immigration and refugee assistance.

Trump's Muslim ban.

A federal version of Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bill.

Prayer in public schools.

Laws making divorce more difficult.

Johnson does not believe in climate change or that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election. He is a young earth creationist believing the Earth was created between 6-10k years ago. He regularly takes his family hunting or to the gun range. He basically checks every box of a christofascist.

The only good thing I can see about him is that Johnson adopted a black 14 year old boy and raised him. Of course he used this adoption as justification for being against reparations and the adopted son can it be found in any public family photos with Johnson. Any speculation that the adopted boy doesn't exist or was Johnson's sexual plaything is completely unfounded.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Given every election that’s happened since 2016, this is exactly what every single Democratic candidate needs to hang around the neck of every single Republican. No more blue state moderate republicans. Link them all to 100% supporting a national abortion ban, outlawing marriage equality, and forced Christian prayers in public schools. Anti-civil rights, pro-child endangerment. Every single market should get this message, and it should be clear and consistent across the country.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It isn't enough to just argue that people shouldn't vote for Republicans. Being the least worst option won't work. We need to talk about why they should vote for Democrats. We need to convince people that their own personal lives will be tangibly better under Democrats. We need to make people more able to afford housing and food. Union support. Raising the minimum wage. Legislation restricting corporate renters. Legal actions on companies inflating their profits and blaming the pandemic. We need to make people believe that we are on their side against the people who are fucking them.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trust me when I say that I always vote for the best option on the ballot. If Bernie or Liz Warren is there, they’re getting my vote as well as my donations.

But as a member of Team Rainbow, I also have an obligation to myself and my community to do my best to make sure we do not become illegal and persecuted. I will choose fucking anyone over someone who will promise to do actual harm. I feel the same about abortion rights and health care. Those are the bills we need to be ready to die on - and by die on I mean voting for whoever is going to not make it illegal to be gay or trans. I’m old enough (barely) to remember Anita Bryant, who worked to make it illegal for gay men to teach in California because of “grooming.” They called it “recruiting” back then.

I’ll take 40 years of Bidens and Clintons before I take four of the Christian and racist radicals that currently make up the entirety of the gop. When we elect an entire slate of democrats - when they can run the table - we can make things happen like in Michigan. We need enough of a margin of error that a Sinema or Manchin (or Lieberman) can’t hold us hostage.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There is no real chance of people like you or I voting GOP in any case. It's the people who don't have strong opinions either way about deal-breaker issues like LGBT rights or abortion. They are more likely to vote for who puts more money in their pocket or who they think protects them from what they fear.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ehh... you can make a fence sitter into a Democrat, sure, but I really don't think you can convince anyone still willing to call themselves a Republican in 2023 to do more than stay home on election day.

[–] NotBadAndYou@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Staying home might be enough though, no?

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, which is why I was making a rebuttal to the guy saying we should be going the extra mile trying to convince them to vote dem, rather than just stay home. It's wasted effort better spent trying to convince another one of them to stay home, or an actual fence sitter to vote dem.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, you don't win by convincing the other side to vote for you. You win by inspiring your voters to vote.

[–] NotBadAndYou@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

Or by convincing the other side not to bother voting...

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. At most 2/3 or eligible citizens vote. The biggest available voting bloc is the apathetic.

[–] EnglishMobster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That only works if Dems actually support those things. The only policies Dems can run on are the things that the most conservative Dems support.

Basically - every Democratic policy is dictated by whatever Manchin and Sinema decide they're okay with. Otherwise the party is going to be known as the party of broken promises.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Unless we win enough seats that we can ignore party members that are holding the rest back. If we get enough seats, we can make rules that prevent one idiot from blocking my progress.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging by every election that has been held since Roe v. Wade was overturned, it looks like this is actually happening.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, every Republican from a Biden-voting district just signed their own death warrant.

I'll try to hold back my tears.

[–] pingveno@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like moderate Republicans weren't objecting to an extremist (ala Jim Jordan). They were objecting to an extremist who had too much of a public profile. They just needed someone obscure enough that they wouldn't catch too much flak for choosing them.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats the trick, there never were moderate republicans.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I can think of two. Sinema and Manchin.

[–] jballs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

We already knew he was a Republican.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A nationwide abortion ban.

A nationwide ban on gay marriage.

Lol. Lmao even.

I would like to thank Republicans for the constant advertisement they provide for Democrats. 2022 will look like a blowout for Republicans compared to 2024 if they push legislation for this.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

According to Pew polls, 37% of Americans have a negative view of the impact of gay marriage being legal. 37% of Americans also say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases. That is way too many that vote cause too often for my liking.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any speculation that the adopted boy doesn't exist or was Johnson's sexual plaything is completely unfounded.

That’s poppycock and slanderous. The Babylon Bee printed a retraction weeks ago.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

You mean it's poppycock and slanderous that the speculation is unfounded? Got it. It also explains why none of you are naming the unfortunate child victim.

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tldr basically Hitler. Canada seems like a nice place. If they actually implement any of those things that effect me, I'm fucking out. This guy is far more evil than Trump.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They tried so hard to get rid of Obamacare and that was more unpopular than any of these ideas would be. If Democrats make sure the public knows what kind of monsters are running the GOP, then we have a chance at sweeping the next election.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Do we have a list of Republicans who voted for him?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Those all sound like "small government" things to me.