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Egypt official tells Europe to take in 1m Gazans if ‘you care about human rights so much’
(www.middleeastmonitor.com)
this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2023
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The reason is that they're assholes. They claim that they can't do it because there's no assurance of return and because they're worried about Hamas. Sorry, those are not reasons to ignore a humanitarian crisis at your border.
What would happen if Hamas started launching attacks against Israel from Egyptian soil?
Then Egypt needs to eliminate the threat of Hamas in their country.
Oh - that's not possible without collateral damage since the absolute love using civilians as human shields? Better not take them in and let Israel take the blame...
I'd hope Egypt would then work together with Israel on disarming Hamas on Egyptian soil.
By bombing Egyptian soil?
Are you saying they shouldn't take in refugees just in case Hamas attacks from Egypt because it might result in an Israeli response? Because you could make that same argument about Ukrainians fleeing to Poland. They might secretly be backing Russia. What if they launch attacks against Ukraine from Polish soil?
EDIT: I'm sorry, you can downvote me all you like, but this is a bullshit excuse to stop taking in people who are facing a genocide. Egypt sees a genocide happening on their border and, instead of letting refugees in, they say, "why can't Europe take care of it?" I'm sorry, it's bullshit. They're complicit in this genocide. They aren't the cause- the cause is Israel- but they're complicit. They're letting Gazans die.
Alright, let me ask this question. Why does Hamas exist in Palestine? Did Palestine take any steps to remove or eliminate Hamas before this war broke out?
What relevance does that have to Egypt refusing to help refugees fleeing from a genocide? Should no one take in Gazan refugees?
Because if the government of Palestine and the people of Palestine were willingly housing a known terririst organization, I might be hesitant to let them through my country as well.
Or would you let Russians from either the occupied Luhansk or Donetsk oblast stay with you?
Well it's either be terrified of letting terrorists into your country or be complicit in a genocide. Personally, I would say 'don't be complicit in genocide.' You apparently would say the opposite.
Because it’s so simple for you eh? You are a disingenuous, bad faith actor. You know as well as I do that you would never allow your family or friends to be put at risk for either Israel or Gaza, so stop acting like you have the high moral ground here.
I absolutely would put my family at risk to help stop a genocide. How is Hamas going to even attack Israel? With what weapons? Do you think they would be allowed to bring missiles across the border with them? Do you think they would just let everyone run through without stopping them at checkpoints?
Again, it's either be afraid of a hypothetical terrorist attack or help stop an actual genocide.
Then stop armchair arguing with me on a website and go fucking help them, and take your wife and kids while you’re at it.
My god the people on this website who think they’d be so much better at things than elected officials or trained servicemembers or ems is astounding.
How would you advise I do that?
Ok? Not sure how asking you how I should help is trolling, but enjoy blocking me.
Have you opened up your house to refugees? Here you go https://www.paih.org/get-involved/host-a-refugee-in-your-home
Now you can do something. I'm sure if you don't live in the US then you can find your country's equivalent
I don't live in the UK. I also don't have a spare bedroom. I would if I did. And how are Gazan refugees supposed to get to me? Because as far as I can tell, the only two countries bordering them are Israel and Egypt and neither will let them out.
At least partially because Israel saw it as beneficial.
With, let me guess, weapons Israel gave them to do it?
Seriously how do you expect people to get rid of a theocratic dictatorship, without external help, in the situation that Gaza is in.
Forced displacement of a people *is a war crime" and given the Nakba it's not such a bad idea to not give this to Israel. We've played this game before in 1948 and did any refugee from that era get to ever return home? Nope.
So Egypt can't take them because it would allow Israel to commit a war crime by displacing them, but Egypt thinks Europe should take them
Okay, then what should Gazans do, stay put and die? Because unless they're either staying put or somehow getting into Israel, Egypt sounds like their only option. Except Egypt won't allow it.
Gazans and double nationals are as we speak now at the Rafah crossing and no government was able to get them out.
What they should do is get aid and a ceasefire and an end to the blockade. There is nothing you can expect from a group of civilians dying every day under bombing. There is nothing they as a group "should do" other than try to survive and not be forced out of their homeland.
Even if they get to leave, their lives will still be shit. Once a refugee forever a refugee.
So you're basically saying Gazans should stay put and hope that there's peace before they're murdered. I see.