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[–] CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This isn't a fix. Excel wasn't meant for this. While I do understand it's convenient as a database, unless you're doing something unimportant and small you just really should use something proper. And even now that this "problem" is gone, I am certain there are still more things that cause trouble. You can not satisfy everyone and Excel was just... not made for gene info storage.

Even if you don't want to use stuff that isn't Microsoft Office, that comes with Microsoft Access, which is a proper database management system. It's literally in the same software package, so why do people refuse to use it?

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would you need a full blown (shitty) relational database management system to store gene info? Excel should be just fine for storing data in arbitrary tables. It shouldn't make assumptions about your data by default, and changing values that look like they're in a specific format should be opt-in, not default behavior.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago

Sqlite and duckdb are great, I don't know about shitty.

You don't get the visual feedback but the query language, reliability and python interface are all top notch.

[–] CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is not what it was made for. It was made to do shenanigans with values like doing math on them and plotting graphs. If you merely want data storage, use a table. I agree, a database is overkill for most things, but that doesn't change the fact that Excel is the wrong tool for the job. Maybe if they added a table mode where it's basically just a frontend for a csv it'd work, but right now I'd still say it's better to use a scalpel than a hammer, even if scissors do the trick just fine.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Agree. Excel is terribly inefficient if your goal is just storing data.

[–] mcc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really don't know why, or are you being sarcastic?

[–] CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never used Access personally, so I don't know if it's any good or not, I'm just frustrated by people using spreadsheets for data storage.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's been years since I used it tbh. But "access bad" is a meme for a reason

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Convinient arbitrary table software goes brrrr.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I'm so sick of people using Excel for things it's not supposed to be used for.

As a general rule if you're not actually making use of the formula tool, you probably don't need to be using Excel.