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Why does this community, which is privacy oriented, use Discord rather than Matrix? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago by Kalcifer@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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On the side bar it lists the following:

[Matrix/Element]Dead

Discord

"Discord" is an active link, but the Matrix link is completely inactive. Not only is it inactive (which could have be excused as a broken link), but it is also manually labeled as "Dead", as if there is no intention of making it work. How can a community that is focused on privacy willingly favor a service that is privacy non-respecting when a perfectly functional privacy-respecting alternative exists?

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're still feeding a proprietary platform your information (not just the messages) directly. In this case in particular, if some privacy conscious person wanted to discuss with others and didn't have a Discord account for the same reason, they'd have to sign up and give up some of that privacy

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't disagree with that. Obviously for private messages it's a different scenario.

Also, doesn't matrix.org have almost all metadata on most users anyways? Unless you explicitly block everyone that uses it from ever reaching you.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

Idk about all, I do know it's a lot, but the argument for me there is how the privacy policies differ.
I admit that I haven't really looked much into it, but just assumed that since Discord is so terrible to be borderline violating the GDPR in respects to user data deletion, matrix.org couldn't ever be worse than that. Of course, mine is just an assumption, Matrix definitely aligns more with my values though, and some E2EE will always beat none, but everyone should do their research before trusting me.

Also note, there are other open registration Matrix hosts, so maybe you can find someone with even better policies.