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The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

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[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Israel is going to wipe out Hamas.

Honest question: to Israelis that want to see this, what does this mean? forcing the Palestinians out completely to Jordan and Lebanon?

don't get me wrong, it'd be awesome if you could just magically zap the terrorists, but that's not reality. so what's the end game with this kind of rhetoric?

[–] PitzNR@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I just want to be clear, I'm stating my opinion, no one else's, it might be the consensus in Israel, it might be not. I've always been against a lot of my country and military actions, especially against Palestinians, never saw them as enemies, even as a soldier I spoke out if something seemed wrong to me, even in operation protective edge I've been told that I shouldn't live here if I care so much about the Palestinian, this was told to me by a soldier that I was carrying food and water for, what I'm saying is that I'm not some right wing hateful nut job when I say: I don't give a shut anymore, I don't give a shit where the gazan will go, I don't give a shit if they don't have food, I don't give a shit about any of this, In 24 hours, three friends have lost half of their families, two friends have been held hostages, one friend kidnapped to Gaza, presumably dead. As much as a pacifist I tried to be my whole life, right now I want nothing but the sea to be painted red by the blood of the people who did this and supported it, and quite honestly, when this is all over, I want our elected officials to be rounded up, faced against the wall and be shot.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Didn't the IDF already kill the 1,500 or so terrorists who did this?

What reason do we have to believe that the thousands of people who are currently getting bombed had anything to do with this at all, beyond having the misfortune of living in Gaza?

[–] Senuf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just answering to the first question: As of today, according to Israeli media, that number is quite off.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't been able to find new numbers today. A bunch of articles restating the number of Israelis killed by Hamas and a few talking about estimates for numbers killed in Gaza but I haven't found updated info on how many of the Hamas terrorists died in Israel.

[–] Senuf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the fact that most of them went back to Gaza makes me doubt that previously quoted number.

In any case, I hope Hamas gets an obliterating hit and can't recover, and that Israel remembers that not all Gaza is Hamas, so this is over as soon as possible with no more innocent lives lost.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the fact that most of them went back to Gaza

They did? I hadn’t read that. Do you know where I can learn more about that?

[–] Senuf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Don't remember right now. Been reading a couple of Israeli news sites in English, al-Jazeera, and some other news sites, so whatever I say to you now might be misguided. Anyway, as far as I recall right now it wasn't speculation.

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