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It does, but culture is funny. It gets transmitted from person to person, with the larger group's culture overriding the smaller group's. This means that when growth hits a certain rate, the once larger group can find itself overwhelmed with the incoming group's culture.
You won't be able to control that, either. Or shape it. If you try to throttle the growth, then another curious thing happens... you sap everyone's reason for wanting to be part of the network. This was reddit once (and Digg before it, and Slashdot before that, etc). When Reddit hit that growth peak, despite the cultural damage, it still felt good to be a part of it... before, there were only a few subforums, and only broad topics were available. Sure, no one minded if you posted something really niche to the big subs (culture still hadn't completely gone to shit), but the chances of someone else there who also enjoyed whatever that niche thing was were small. So when it got big, and suddenly there were enough people who enjoyed it to have an actual subreddit on it, that (at the time at least) outweighed any cultural erosion.
Until you get the shitfest that it is today.
Some online forums went the other way. The growth never hit that level where cultural erosion occurred... but they then never got big enough to maintain their userbase. Kuro5hin, for instance (that one's interesting... they had some of the same factional splits you see here already, which just sapped their userbase even more, Hulver left and created Husi, and a third of the users went with him).
In the end, whatever initial culture you initially had is not that important after all. It will either be lost because growth annihilates it, or growth won't sustain and users drift away.
But people have more influence on the structure and features. Thus, they'll change the the site until bad features abound.
Like, right now. Though moderation is almost certainly the worst approach, you have people here clamoring for more of it, not less.