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[–] fire86743@lemmygrad.ml 77 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Modern liberals: "The American Revolution was the best and most wholesome revolution ever!!!"

Liberals if they lived back then: "The colonists are using violence to gain independence, why can't they just be peaceful? They're a bunch of violence loving terrorists, I'm siding with the British Empire."

[–] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only consistency in liberal ideology is zero awareness of History

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

while you're here let's bring up the french revolution, overrated bougie ahh revolution that didn't improve the situation for poor people in france even 200 years later

Edit: I obviously don't support isis

[–] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Yeah when you hear French libs talking all about "republican values" and freak out when some people break stuff in the streets

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

overrated bougie ahh revolution that didn't improve the situation for poor people in france even 200 years later

It objectively did you aren't accounting for how shit things were before the French revolution it was illegal to pay a worker more than the minimum required to live

[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Many leading French revolutionaries were abolitionists. They ended slavery in Haiti. But then Bonaparte launched a fascist counterrevolutionary coup and made slavery in Haiti legal again.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 year ago

Liberals have this image in their head of a perfect victim that fights a just battle against the cinematic evil oppresive force. They'd rather support Palestinians as harmless corpses than as a liberation force killing their oppressors. And since they see events in a vacuum, they will side with the 'victims of agression' again.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

well to be fair here the colonists were mainly mad at being constrained by British treaties from massacring the natives so the founding fathers are a much better map to Israel in this situation. It's also not undue to speculate that the strong abolitionist movement in Britain at the time that led to the fact Britain would ban the slave trade was a concern on some level to a colony that made its money off of slavery. infact there is some evidence that the relative popularity of abolition was a factor in the American desire to break from Britain

There are a lot of good reasons why someone might fight the British empire so it's a true testament to American ingenuity that they managed to find an evil reason

[–] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are a lot of good reasons why someone might fight the British empire so it's a true testament to American ingenuity that they managed to find an evil reason

"Americans can be trusted to do the right thing, after they've exhausted every other option"

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure, most of the time the Yanks double back and try an exhosted option agian

[–] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Something about "the right thing" just seems to?frighten amerikkka to the core

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well like I said they actually did the wrong thing because they only took independence so they could make things worse

[–] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, we're on the same page. I never said that Americans had exhausted all their other options yet.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I've heard the american revolutionary war described as "Brexit but for slavery" and I feel like that really hits the nail on the head

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The colonist militias did heinous shit. They massacred entire indiginous tribes "just in case" they were on the British side.