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[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why are these an issue though? It is not like people can just print the ammunition too. So they can only buy them with a gun license anyways.

[–] mintyfrog@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Yep, if you're a criminal making ghost guns to commit crimes because you can't pass a background check to buy a gun (and then scratch the serial number off), then it's already a crime for you to have that ghost gun because you're a prohibited person.

Requiring a serial number changes nothing and only affects nerds, not criminals.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Most States do not require any licensing to purchase or own a firearm.

[–] Khotetsu@lib.lgbt 3 points 11 months ago

And this right here is why the "Ghost Gun" thing is largely just a scare like the Halloween drug thing that happens every year. Because it's generally cheaper and easier to go one state over to the state with lax gun laws and buy a gun there for the price of an Ender 3 instead of going through all the effort of buying a printer and learning how to use it. Same reason why the Mexican cartels smuggle guns out of the US and into Mexico, and not the other way around. Guns are cheap and plentiful in the US, and they're not hard to get.

There's some "teh gubernment is cummin fer muh gunz!1!" chuds out there 3d printing guns, but there's plenty of those people with guns they bought legally as well. The biggest large scale ghost gun manufacturing I've heard about is the Burmese resistance fighters who have been printing en masse a design to fight back against a genocidal military coup in Myanmar because the international community has largely ignored what's going on there and they can't get guns any other way, which is exactly the sort of situation that design was created for.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reloading ammunition is a thing. In fact, it's preferable.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But for that you need all the parts, including the gunpowder. And for the gunpowder you need a special permission for handling explosives, at least in my country. So you just move into areas of even more difficult to procure things. it seems far easier to just buy a gun and ammunition somewhere else and take it over the border into California.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

In America you MIGHT need to show ID for age verification purposes in most states when purchasing gunpowder.

There is no country wide law requiring a permit to purchase everything you need to make bullets.

The exception might be buying a large amount(like 50lbs) but low pounds(<10lbs) is legal without a permit.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

If 50 pounds or less of commercially manufactured black powder is being purchased, and the powder is intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in antique firearms as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16) or in antique devices exempt from the term "destructive device" in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(4), no form is required. However, if the black powder is being purchased for any other purpose (regardless of quantity), the purchaser or other transferee must possess a federal explosives license or permit.

[18 U.S.C. 845(a)(5); 18 U.S.C. 926(c); 27 CFR 555.141(b), 555.26(a)]