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I saw this a while ago when I was searching high and low for a messenger to switch to from Element (didn't end up switching to anything). I like a lot of things about it, but don't like that it can't support offline delivery or multi-device. I think no messenger without those features will ever take off because too many people demand them. In fact I remember that in group chats, it won't even do the faux offline messaging that it does for 1-to-1 chats! I don't know why but that was the biggest deal breaker for my own use case. I hope they eventually fix that, there's no reason they can't.
I also don't like that it has moderation features, which feel really out of place to me in a peer to peer system. I don't want that kind of social hierarchy in a context that more or less inherently assumes all participants are trusted. Moderation only makes sense in public forums IMO.
There's also at least one security cocern: https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426 Though the people pointing it out were pretty toxic and really exaggerated its severity :(
Despite all this, if offline messaging and multi-device aren't requirements for you, I'd say Tox is a great option, maybe the best option.
I'm proud to hear you're getting into Gemini, by the way :) I first heard of it a while ago but recently got really onboard and I'm working on converting my own website to Gemini.
By "doesn't support multi-device" you mean it doesn't have syncing between devices?
That's kind of a big deal for me.
Yeah, I mean that. The design of the protocol makes it basically impossible to implement. This is one of the core drawbacks of peer to peer compared to federation.
right yeah I figured as much. I don't know if there really is a way to do multi device with p2p.
Thanks for the insight! No offline messages is a big drawback, however aTox from Fdroid seems to have the service running all the time unless you kill it. Battery drain aside I think this could help. No multi device support is a big one though.
Yeah Gemini is cool. Big gopher hole right now for me.