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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just a pet peeve of mine, it's like complaining the Jedi couldn't stop Palpatine and that means they're all idiots with a silly religion or something.

They were the guardians of a multispecies Republic for ten THOUSAND years, and they curb stomped the Sith Empire everytime it tried to start shit. They clearly knew what they were doing.

What was the alternative? Seizing direct control of the government? Executing every Senator that looked a little corrupt?

Palatine played a game they couldn't counter without destroying themselves in the process. Sometimes you just lose...

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes you can make all the right decisions and still lose. That's not called failure, that's called life.

  • Captain Picard
[–] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's coffee in that nebula.

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[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

was it 10 thousand years now? in the movies they alternate between saying "a thousand years" or "a thousand generations." i mean, either way i think your point stands, but still

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Disney has canonized the Rakatan Empire so for now it's assumed all the Old Republic works and timelines are canon(ish).

The Old Republic was actually 25,000 years old, I misremembered, but there was a period about a thousand years before the OT it was dissolved and then a different Republic was formed that... did everything exactly the same?

The result is people largely ignoring that stumble in its timeline.

[–] andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorta. The Last Jedi apparently had an easter egg reference, a kyber crystal he used, and the Rakata and their empire are specifically referenced in Andor.

Which is a small continuity problem since it was a literal plot point of Kotor that it has been so long the galaxy had mostly forgotten about them, but whatever, the current consensus is Revan's general story is canon if not necessarily specific events from the games.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flavor text on an easter egg item doesn't break canon, it's really just the devs speaking directly to the player

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If there's one thing Star Wars does well, it's applying a history to every single fuckin thing on screen. In this case the multiple references to the Rakatans makes it fairly likely Darth Revan will be outright canonized eventually, especially because there just really isn't a point to the Rakata without his plotline.

Like, what, we're supposed to give a shit they maybe made Centerpoint Station?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

There's nothing silly about a religion that can give you the powers of a ninja wizard.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

But the Jedi did fail under Yoda & Windu – that's kind of the point of the trilogy, they became too arrogant in their peace.