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[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Remember that time when we had a 40-something-year-long cold war with Russia, and then elected US officials decided to side with the country that's commiting genocide and absolutely countless war crimes?

Imagine if Russia took Ukraine. What standard would that set? Why wouldn't they want to continue outward to other parts of Europe? Remind me why we had two world wars, again?

Imagine if Russia decided to invade Florida. Would we just sit on our hands, cause we don't have the money? Would we blame the politics of Florida for not wanting to act?

I understand that Ukraine is a different country, but we live in a world with allyship. We have a great military standing, but our own propaganda will lead you to believe that we're the only big player in town. This is simply not true.

Turning your back on Ukraine in this time of war means that you have made a choice to side with Russia, China, North Korea, several countries in the Middle East, and all of their allies. Why would any sane person want to choose that?

If the reason is cost, then your opinion translates to the United States being too poor to prevent genocide and the spread of dictatorship. If the reason is military resources, then you're also saying that our defense is so brittle that we can't part with fractions of a percent of our reserves. Personally, I don't believe these things.

Plus, good lord, be a good human. You've seen the devastation that's happening in their country, right? Let's forget about imaginary political lines for a second. Why the hell would you choose for this to continue? They're shelling civilian areas, for Christ's sake.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

USSR = All citizens guaranteed healthcare, a yearly vacation, permanent residence, education, and a job, in a system with the highest level of social supports of any nation in human history or present. The Russian Federation = a Klepocratic Oligarchy who directly embezzled the majority of the public owned assets in the USSR for their own benefit, leading to a 10 year drop in life expectancy after the fall of the Soviet Union. All of this under the explicit western policy of “Shock Therapy”.

You: RUSSIA IS THE USSR

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone bought the Soviet propaganda wholesale.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The document states that the dictatorship in the USSR was a group that Stalin/Khruschev was the head of rather than just ruling entirely alone as a sole leader. Which is, y'know, usually how dictatorships work.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even In Stalin's time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the Communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the Communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and I t seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain. However, 1t does not appear that any of the present leaders will rise to the stature of Lenin and Stalin,so that it will be safer to assume that developments in Moscow will be along the lines of what is called collective leadership, unless Western policies force the Soviets to stream- line their power organization.

Idk how you can misread the literal first paragraph.
“Even in Stalins time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the communist setup is exaggerated . Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization if the communist power structure. “.