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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/5419055

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I've heard absolute loads of homophobic BS from Christians and especially anti-trans stuff lately, so fuck off with the singling out Islam bigotry. All religious people are capable of hate, as much as they claim to be above it all (at least the ones dumb enough to openly express hate).

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I agree with you that all religions are shit, but I think it's important and we should be able to point out when a specific religion is fucking us up.

In Berlin there has been a lot of homophobic attacks coming from the muslim community, especially in that area where there are a lot of them.

Maybe you were unware of that, but I think its very very likely that the attackers were muslims.

That doesn't mean that Christianity is better, nor any other religion, but do we really need to be pointing out the homophobia in the muslim religion and ALWAYS followed by and Christianity is also shitty? There are posts criticizing the homophobic and transphobic acts that Christians have been doing lately too.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay but give me one theocratic Christian country that openly kills people for being gay. We're not going to abolish bigotry in the world without admitting that the Middle East and Islam is especially fucked up when it comes to LGBT rights

[–] DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is a theocracy

Thanks lol, this is the laugh I needed today

[–] DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They use religion to sway the public. Putin may rule with an iron fist, but he absolutely does so with the help of religious rhetoric.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not what a theocracy is. Plenty of politicians around the world use religion to gain support from the public. Some of the only surviving theocracies exist only in the Middle East.

Religion is a useful tool for Putin, but he isn't subservient to any religious leader.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You moved the goal post out of the conversation. Good job on being uselessly correct, dumbass.

[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Plenty of politicians around the world use religious to gain support from the public.

The current state of India with BJP goverment.

[–] koomapotilas@suppo.fi 4 points 1 year ago

In Berlin it's basically given the perpetrators were Muslims.

[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes but if you read the article linked in the reddit theread anouther comment mentioned this was in Berlin-Neukölln, which is predominantly muslim and known to have issues with (esp. young men/boys) radicals opposing queer people.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but if you read my message again, it's responding to someone attempting to claim Islam is worse. It is not.

I seriously hope the US doesn't have to go ALL the way down the road of fascism to prove to the world that Christians are just as bigoted and stupid. Just because our news refuses to label so many hate crimes and acts of violence as bigoted hate crimes does not absolve non-Islam religions.

[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I totally agree that christians (or any religion/religion-like structure) can be and in the case of Christianity often is just as bad.

it's responding to someone claiming islam is worse that's not how I read the comment. I read it as in this case it would make sense to assume the attackers were muslims. My response was intended to say that in this exact case that would probably be a reasonable assumption.

I want to make it clear that I do not think that it is generally significantly more likely for the islam faith to cause queerphobia than it would be for any other one. It is just that in this particular region (Berlin-Neukölln) and demographic (young men) that would be the most likely perputrators.