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[–] WiildFiire@lemmy.world 106 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The riddler is just a narcissist

The penguin is just short fat and ugly

Harley Quinn is just a ditz

The joker is just a sociopath

Catwoman (more of an anti hero than a villain) is just a dommy mommy

Mr freeze is just a smart dude with a dead wife

[–] ProtonEvoker@lemmy.world 74 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah. Like ninety percent of Batman’s rogues gallery are just mob bosses with a gimmick. He’s a street level superhero, that’s about how much you can reasonably take on when your superpowers are martial arts and money.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I dunno, Iron Man is pretty much just the money part without the martial arts, and he fought Thanos.

[–] Restaldt@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So its something to do with how tony's parents raised him vs batman being an orphaned billionaire

Orphans lose again

[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Lol the Tony that made the v1 suit would never have gone toe to toe with Thanos; he was too worried about his own ass. Tony learns what it means to sacrifice much later in life.

[–] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hell, Jason Statham was just an activist and singlehandedly took on a megalodon and swam unprotected underneath the Mariana's Trench by holding water in his nose. Bats and Stark really have to step it up as far as raw power.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol what movie was that? Gonna have to check that out.

[–] Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lol I actually watched that movie a few days ago because of this comment. He didn't swim underneath the Marianas Trench, but maybe that's in the sequel.

Edit: Just watched the sequel and can confirm he did swim underneath the Marianas Trench by holding water in his nose to avoid being crushed by the pressure.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 9 months ago

If your technology is good enough, you don't need super powers.

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 30 points 9 months ago

And Batman is just a rich orphan

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Riddler is a smart narcissist and in latest versions, apparently a twitch streamer. I find that part hilarious

Penguin is rich as hell and pretty much the only one who could rival Batman in terms of monetary power

Catwoman got athletics. Counts for something I guess.

And Mr Freeze is intensely augmented by his technology to a point of pseudo immortality and having a good mastery over his unique weapons. Honestly Mr Freeze is highly irregular

[–] erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I think that's the interesting thing about batman. He's just a dude.

Granted, he has a lot of money, but at the end of the day, he's just a dude, that enjoys solving mysteries. He's a hobbyist detective.

So yeah, all his villains are going to have similar abilities (Later they had the clay guy and croc and people with actual super powers). But the idea was for a guy that just liked solving crime.

And you have to make that memorable and go in on what's vogue at the time - so they made him have this whole bat identity. And ok, that adds an interesting back story, and similarly the villains need to be memorable too, but not super-powered.

So the villains, are some of the most interesting because they can't just do something because their super-powers granted them the ability, they have to actually think and plan and have interesting motives.

And two-face is either an agent of chaos or presldestination. And to my knowledge they never explore that, it's open to your interpretation.

Edit: batman also came out at a time when mental illness was really starting to affect society. Back in the day if you were mentally ill, they just called it evil, and put you to death. But then people started examining stuff like that and say "Hey, we might be able to help these people." So then you have the state-run looney bins which is rich soil for batman-type villains.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Nice character analysisation.

Would be a shame if they were to squander all that when they make him team up with a group of justice loving superheroes. We could call them the "justice League" and then make Batman bullshit OP because he has to keep up with superheroes and supervillains.

Good thing they would never do that to a setting that isn't based around superpowers, they would neeeveer do such a stupid idea

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"just a dude" with elite ninja training

[–] erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago

Yeah, well as opposed to Superman, and the like, with actual super powers.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 19 points 9 months ago

Killer Croc is just a crocodile.