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Quantum Resistance and the Signal Protocol (signal.org)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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We believe that the key encapsulation mechanism we have selected, CRYSTALS-Kyber, is built on solid foundations, but to be safe we do not want to simply replace our existing elliptic curve cryptography foundations with a post-quantum public key cryptosystem. Instead, we are augmenting our existing cryptosystems such that an attacker must break both systems in order to compute the keys protecting people’s communications.

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Our new protocol is already supported in the latest versions of Signal’s client applications and is in use for chats initiated after both sides of the chat are using the latest Signal software. In the coming months (after sufficient time has passed for everyone using Signal to update), we will disable X3DH for new chats and require PQXDH for all new chats. In parallel, we will roll out software updates to upgrade existing chats to this new protocol.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A nice and reasonable approach.

I just wonder why doubling up the cyphers is the way to go? Not confident in the post-quantum cipher yet?

[–] waffle@lemmy.cafe 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah they explain it in the article.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

There was a "quantum safe" encryption scheme proposed that had a non-quantum vulnerability found in it. Perhaps they are hedging against that occuring again? The scheme was rejected in the end so didnt matter to much.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/08/sike-once-a-post-quantum-encryption-contender-is-koed-in-nist-smackdown/

[–] jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Google is also going with a combined approach: https://security.googleblog.com/2023/08/toward-quantum-resilient-security-keys.html

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

New ones are too young and not battle tested with time. Hybrid PQ is the norm until more data is available.