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[–] Francisco 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia invaded Ukraine. Invaded. And occupied. With weapons. With murder and torture. And child abduction. And declarations that Ukraine as country, culture and people, should not exist.

That is unjustifiable.

[–] jorgesumle -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think we should defend any imperialist oligarchy. I don't support the US regime. I don't support the Russian regime. I don't support the Ukrainian regime.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict. --Martin Luther King, Jr.

[–] jorgesumle -1 points 1 year ago

Ni guerra entre pueblos ni paz entre clases

[–] socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a different version of "all lives matter". I also don't support capitalist imperialist oligarchies, but when you've got one imperial power murdering civilians inside another smaller capitalist nation, it's fucking abysmal to take that as an opportunity to chant what you don't like about the country whose people are being slaughtered.

If you don't want to be forced into a stance that's loosely supportive of us imperialism, which I fully understand, you always have the option to sit out. It doesn't help leftist or anti-us causes to make it look like we're siding with russia, which is what everyone hears when you try to "both sides" a war of aggression.

[–] jorgesumle 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know you, but I'm being forced to pay more taxes and the inflation caused by the economic sanctions to support this puppet regime that bans all opposition, forces people to die on the battlefield and doesn't let people leave the country.

[–] jollyroger@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://youtu.be/wjU-ve4Pn4k?t=2034
This part of the video is talking about what you are saying almost exactly. Your argument or the argument you support by posting that article has been made over and over since 2014. Its been ruminated since february 24th to try make the west lose interest and slow support for Ukraine. You also claim you do not support Russia OR Ukraine but really you just made it clear you support Russias invasion and Ukraine's far-right and or NATO and or USA is to blame (which is wat the article says). Because if you where neutral you would see this is a message that support the Kremlin propaganda line.

[–] jorgesumle 1 points 1 year ago

I don't like paying taxes to support a puppet regime controlled by NATO.