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Did we kill Linux's killer feature? (lemdro.id)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by mfat@lemdro.id to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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A few years ago we were able to upgrade everything (OS and Apps) using a single command. I remember this was something we boasted about when talking to Windows and Mac fans. It was such an amazing feature. Something that users of proprietary systems hadn't even heard about. We had this on desktops before things like Apple's App Store and Play Store were a thing.

We can no longer do that thanks to Flatpaks and Snaps as well as AppImages.

Recently i upgraded my Fedora system. I few days later i found out i was runnig some older apps since they were Flatpaks (i had completely forgotten how I installed bitwarden for instance.)

Do you miss the old system too?

Is it possible to bring back that experience? A unified, reliable CLI solution to make sure EVERYTHING is up to date?

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[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net 194 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Alias update="sudo apt full-upgrade && flatpak update"

Fixed it for you

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Nice. Your excellent suggestion probably belongs in a meta-package somewhere so that users get it for free when appropriate.

[–] bitteorca@artemis.camp 30 points 1 year ago

Since they’re using Fedora apt isn’t going to do anything, they would need to run sudo dnf upgrade -y && flatpak update

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

appimages though?

[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't update, they are standalone files

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Appimages for in-dev programs usually have an auto-updater that runs when you run the program, too, which is accetapble by my factual and perfect standards. It would be nice if someone put together an appimage store to manage these, I guess.

[–] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Why not create a plug in to the AppStore of whatever your using

[–] KrapKake@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im pretty sure there is a store, if I remember I think its called appimage pool.

Edit: https://github.com/prateekmedia/appimagepool

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Nice.

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

This is obviously what I was referring to, but yeah...

[–] grumpyrico@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Thats it ... Thats how i do it in every distro inluding nix-env and i'm eine

No need to overengeneer

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 1 year ago

If you're an Obtainium/install from GitHub fan, then don't forget gam update.