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The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The act of voting for something like a 3rd party candidate is how democracy is supposed to work.

Which is exactly why we need ranked choice voting because otherwise your not expressing your choices accurately. You should be allowed to vote for your candidate of choice and also pick your poison.

Don't fight against the one thing that will help third party candidates the most.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So much this...the Democratic Party is hardly perfect, and I don't think even most Democrats would claim they are. But, again, the alternative, with the way we vote right now, is....what? Sitting this one out, hoping this time we'll really show those corporate Democrats? Voting for the Greens, which is barely even a serious party in the United States, and probably is compromised anyway?

What is the realistic option, I wonder? Sure, propose alternatives during the primary, but in the general...

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's still a bit of a Catch-22 for people who take your view. You think people should vote for the major party candidate they find least bad, while hoping for ranked choice voting so people can instead vote for the candidate they want most.

But as long as everybody votes the way you do, the parties in power have no electoral incentive at all to change the voting system. It's only when they start losing a significant portion of their voters to third parties that ranked choice starts being an appealing option to them.

I say this as someone who voted Green in 2016 (Clinton state), learned my lesson, and voted for Biden in 2020 (Trump state) and will again in 2024. I've also been much happier with Biden's presidency than I expected to be.

I am a bit encouraged that ranked choice has seen some implementation lately anyways. Hopefully it'll continue to spread. Anyone know if any new states are considering it soon?