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No surprise there. It's overpriced, the quality is poor, the connection is frequently unstable, and the owner of a company is a bigot, who's also intervening in a war. To absolutely no one's surprise, this never would have reached the numbers he promised
Talk for yourself. Some of us need starlink. Quality is great. Price is high but it's space internet. Again connection is pretty fucking stable. Playing GeForce now on my TV thanks to starlink.
He's a cunt but product is not
I agree. It's the only option for internet in many places. I'm very happy with my Starlink service. I'd drop it in a heartbeat if there was a better option but for now it fits my needs.
Unless you need low latency and have nothing better around, yeah I can see how Starlink is best for you.
Obviously the second fibre is available. Half the price and better stability. Fuck musk. But currently it's leaps and bounds above competition.
It's basically the Tesla of the ev industry.
First of all I think you meant the Tesla of the internet provider industry. And also, by your definition, even Tesla isn't the Tesla of the EV industry 😅
What do you mean ?
You said starlink was the Tesla of the EV industry. But they aren't part of the EV industry, they are an internet provider.
And many people would argue that Tesla is not leaps and bounds above the competition, but rather falling behind the competition after starting with a huge head start.
It's a figure of speech. Breathe of the wild is the soulsborne of Nintendo. I honestly can't explain it. Yes Tesla was the Pinnacle during the early years of EV. Starlink is the Pinnacle of space internet. I'm sure it will get overtaken. Currently musk has resources that others don't, namely space x
Maybe I coined it wrong. Starlink is the Tesla of the space internet. Is that better
Yeah, that's actually much better. I agree, they are both trailblazers.
Not necessarily trailblazers. Similar to apple. They took products that existed and made them mainstream appeal. That's the difference. Satellite Internet has been around for ages but not easy and user friendly. Same with evs. Been around since 19th century.
Musk made them Kool
Tesla wasn't even that great, they just had more marketing (and installed some charging stations on the west coast usa) than many of the companies they did RnD with at the time
Think the car was pretty Kool too.
Not really, it had a lot of hype about it.
Oh absolutely. But it was flash when other evs weren't. It had all the buttons. Fun doors.
"Tesla of the ev industry"... meaning overpriced shit. Kind of is considering other satellite providers offer far cheaper service but with higher latency.
Not in my neck of the woods. Need to think bigger than USA
all 3 of the other largest intersat providers cover most of the world, Viasat for example cover most everything other than the deep Sahara and the exact borders of Russia
You've clearly never read anything about Starlink and it's implementation. Rural customers are desperate for any alternatives, and Starlink has 100s of LEO satellites vs Viasat's.. 4.
Ya, that's because Viasat has their satellites in a higher orbit, covering more land per sat, and allowing them to use beefier satellites (this is important for reliability, what most of the sat-com users need as you recently saw in Ukraine).
but no, I have in fact read plenty about Starlink, and its implementation, and know full well that this is literally just "bigger number more impressive", most rural customers who needed internet already know about sat-coms.
As for the 1 million (21 million short of projected users, because turns out rural people already know about sat-com, and why switch?), many of those are, and I hate to sound like a rural elitist, people from cities who only recently moved out into the middle of nowhere.
as for the LEO vs. GSO, it is about 400ms extra ping, but unless you are stock trading or playing video games ping doesn't really matter, and you shouldn't do either of them over sat-coms anyway.
Alright, I concede. These are all fair points.
Seems like it's available in Spain south America and qatar
I've heard mixed reviews, the big problem seems to be stability, at least around my area. I've heard it goes down frequently in heavy rain and snow (I'm in Canada), and people have had problems with satellites being blocked by trees (lots of trees in Canada).
For people with no access to Internet as is that's still a huge upgrade, but for people who were hoping it would open up the possibility of moving to and working remotely in more rural areas without good wired internet coverage it's a total letdown.
Hasn't gone down since March. Went down yesterday. Worldwide outage. My previous sat system went down frequently. Like once a week. Was 30mb down at full. Usually managed 15 most days. Sundays were pretty much unusable. Other options were dal at top 15.
So starlink is a fucking god send.
I think it is exactly that. Yes trees impact but you don't put the dish there. We had a good damn cyclone. It was fine. We were the only people in the area who had internet. The road washed out along with fibre. Can't get a better recommendation than that.
I love that you have 6 downvotes probably purely because you dared to say Starlink is good for your use case. Haven't you heard the news that Musk is bad therefore you're a bad person too for using Starlink?
I was just saying this to my partner. Down voted for just stating my case. I even end with fuck musk.
Can't win em all. I seem to have 6 down voted on all my comments. So im guessing someone doesn't like me and is writing a script or bot to diwnvote me.
If that doesn't mean I've made it. What does
That's awesome. Sounds like geographical location really impacts performance right now, hope we get better service up here soon.
The product is objectively the worst possible option in any place that has options, which is most places. It may be useful for some people in some remote parts of the world. Doesn't make it a good product though. It just makes it the only product on offer.
Sooo.... some people need starlink?
We have options, just not good ones. After Starlink, the next best option where I live is 4G internet, which is way slower. Another satellite service or dialup are other options, both much worse than Starlink. We do not live in a remote location, just barely rural, and only a few kms from a town with gigabit fibre. Starlink is a fantastic service that has only gone down twice for us in the 7 months we’ve had it, and even then only briefly. I don’t think I can fully impress upon you just how much better it has made things.
Its not competing against cable or fiber, its competing against satellite internet and DSL. My family has a place in rural Maine and we used to have Hughesnet satellite internet and starlink is half the price and like 50x the speed.
It's better than than the rest. It works really well. What are you basing your reasoning on