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He posted the other day about being proud American etc. and yet he's actively giving comfort to hostile adversaries like Russia and screwing US allies. I think if I were the US federal government I wouldn't touch SpaceX or Starlink with a shitty stick given the mercurial, manchild in charge of them with his own agenda.
A proud American who takes money from the US military to provide Starlink service to the military in Ukraine and then deliberately defeats US military interests there when it comes to the pinch. There's a word for that - a couple actually. Traitor. Treasonous.
Did Musk take direct US military funding prior to those incidents in Ukraine?
People seem to want state control in a capitalist economy. That's just not really how capitalism works.
Yes, he did. He was paid by the US government for it.
Can you link the proof? I am pretty certain he did indeed take US money, but I am unsure about the timeline between the money grant and the Ukrainian attack on the Russian fleet.
Here is one of them: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/279224/20220816/starlink-militarization-spacex-awarded-air-force-million-dollar-contract.htm
That was back in 2022, well before the Ukrainian attack on the Russian fleet that was countered by Elmos policies.
It'll be interesting to see how much the US invests in his companies post Twitter shit show.
There's an interesting thought.
While there's no doubt the US government could withstand any difficulty inflicted on it by Musk's corporate empire, would the foot shot to their own efforts be worth it to sever ties with Musk?
Yes
How is it a shot to the foot? Just install a new CEO or privatize SpaceX. Ford is going to eat Teslas lunch in a few years (maybe GM too if they stop being idiotic about car play) so I am not all too worried about Teslas value to the consumer.
Slightly OT but I think Ford's chance to beat Tesla has flown out the window. Ford is partially withdrawing from Europe - it might linger on selling commercial vans & tractors but as a consumer brand they're nearly gone. GM has pulled out of Europe (and China). GM sold it's European Opel operation to Stellantis. There is talk of GM trying to enter Europe with EVs but we'll see.
Anyway the point is they both kind of blew it and are retreating to their domestic market, probably hoping they can cling on there, weather the storm and come back later. I think Tesla has taken over as the dominant auto maker and it's unlikely to change unless Elon does something spectacularly dumb or drops dead.
Tesla doesn't even have the production capacity to satisfy domestic markets. By 2025 Tesla plans to up their capacity to 2 Million cars a year, meanwhile Ford alone should be puming out around that amount of vehicles, and they are more affordable. And that doesn't even bring in GM or any other car company.
Unless they change their plans and grow production dramatically, Teslas doesn't have the capacity. They are only 10% of the global market and most of their competitors have just gotten started. And China is rapidly starting to export cars to the EU, to the point where they are considering raising tariffs even higher.
By 2030, China is projected to be a third of the global market. So if we are talking internationally I think Tesla needs to worry about companies like BYD, NIO, GAC, etc. I mean BYD is set to beat Tesla in production and sales very soon already.
This is gilding the lily. Ford and GM know they are screwed and are adopting a defensive posture in the hopes of recovery. Maybe they perceive retreat as a way to moneyball their resources - wait for the EU carnage to subside and step back in. But thinking that this is coming from a position of strength though is a nonsense. Ford and GM are are fucked in Europe, and China and they're getting out. I haven't seen any sign the same applies to Tesla.
Giving comfort is preventing nuclear war? Comfort me up then!
This is funny.
pretty sure that vid is fake do you have the entire interview? i cant find it