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New job that's WFH if you want.
I can now see my kid every day, stop wasting annual leave for a delivery or CBA days. I can keep on top of chores while working.
I don't get paid any more but I'm spending less and more importantly I'm gaining back time and seeing my family.
It's made me happier, more fulfilled and a better dad.
Some of my office mates worked from home during COVID and their complaint was that is always felt like they were at work because of it and that separating work life from home life was difficult. Do you find that to be true?
Bahaha working from home, I never feel like I’m at work. It’s the best thing ever. I’m at my comfy place in my PJs surrounded by my cats, partner, and KOTH RANDOMIZER. 10/10 fuck an office
Yeah I get that feeling. I tend to WFH monday and friday. It's like every weekend is a long weekend!
Hell yeah. I’m every-other-week and that’s kind of torture. Five whole days of WEARING PANTS AND LEAVING THE HOUSE?! Eww. At least I can get some exercise on those days.
Then nine straight days of bliss, KOTH, naps whenever I want, playing games all day, and still somehow wrecking all of my teammates in productivity. And some of them are in office full-time! I have no idea what everyone else does all day.
When you get WFH or hybrid working you become more aware of the time wasted at the office because you know it could have been spent doing chores, gaming or doing something actually useful to your life rather than just tossing it off in a random office with people you don't care about.
Fucking reeeeeeal. I work with one lovely lady, another person like me who never talks and constantly has AirBuds in, and one INCREDIBLY annoying lady. It’s not great.
Otherwise I work at home with a bunch of cats and this person who comes in to kiss me sometimes. And all of my computer games and stuff.
I’m never going back to full time in office.
Same here. I earn the same salary at both jobs but the WFH job I feel like I get paid double per hour because I work what I need to and enjoy the rest rather than clock watching.
Amen. I’d take a solid pay cut to WFH full time!
No. Mainly because it's flexible and I still do come into the office 2-3 days a week on average and when at home I have strict boundaries, I work set hours, take a lunch and switch off at the end of my "shift".
When I've got busy days or meetings I'll still come into the office. The flexibility is the key benefit. Finish early, go in late, pick up the kids, go home to collect a parcel, stay at home if I had too many beers etc.
That sounds absolutely amazing. I find the office to be overwhelming some days, but I also don't like isolation. You are my new goal.
Trust me it's incredible. I think it has benefits for the employer too.
Cheaper real estate and the other week I was ill, not horribly but didn't want to spread anything so I just stayed at home. I didn't get a mark on my record and the boss didn't have to schedule my work to anyone else.
I feel like it's only beneficial for two kinds of people: those who're trying to save money or those who're trying to save their time. If you don't fall into either of the categories then WFH can make you feel very lonely and isolated specially if you live alone.
Right but who doesn't want to save money or time? My job still has the option of working in the office as much as you want. It's not an all or nothing equation.
Oh I'm not talking about your job in particular. I was mostly speaking about forced work from home. Hybrid way of working is the best of both worlds (more or less).
Also I meant WFH (not hybrid) is bad for people who want to go out and socialize but can't. Making it so they take less and less care of themselves. Obviously this isn't for everyone but a large number of people working from home suffer from this issue.
For many people, it helps to have a “work place” at home. I don’t have any space for an office but I realized we never use the dining room so I set up an office there. Now the Dining room is “work” and i goto a different room when I’m “home”
It is a nice change in a lot of cases - getting that commuting time back can be a game changer, particularly if you have kids.
Do agree with the other person about it being a double-edged sword (I'm definitely in the 'it's kind of isolating' camp) - though at the same time it can serve as a push to creating more connections outside of work.
(Though some of us, myself included, don't really respond to the push I guess).
Good answer! I'm glad this is working for you!
Yeah I can see the double edged sword. I guess "WFH if you want" is doing some heavy lifting in my reply. My best friend is permanant remote with no office and lives alone and I bet it's isolating. Where as I have kids, wife and a shit tonne of chores so I don't get the same isolation issues but I could definitely see some instances where it could be an issue.
I think the hybrid model is perfect. I'll go to the office for important meetings, so I don't have distractions and can truly get in the zone.
Agreed. My own problem is that my role is very disconnected from my local office - so it was isolating even before I was made WFH.
At the same time, though, isolating wearing business casual (I've yet to find a business casual get-up I've found 100% comfortable), or isolating while getting to work in boxers if I so choose. Hmm. Tough choice :p
Try get involved in some teams chats, hell even call some people for a chat about work.
Maybe arrange a 3 monthly pub quiz or meal out with the team. People are receptive to that kind of thing and can really bond the team.
Kinda disingenuous to your employer to spend your billed hours doing chores around the house tbh
As opposed to sat on lemmy at work or at the tea machine? My downtime and output isn't changed, but rather than being forced to make small talk or sat staring into space when I want 5m, I can do stuff around my house.
Found the middle-manager