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If you have yo jump to Nazi's to make your point you've already lost the argument. Its just a symbol. Almost no one is an actual Nazi. What people are really saying is be tolerant of alternative health views . be tolerant of anti VAX views. Be tolerant of Karen's and listen to their complaints.
Nothing in the infographic is specific to Nazis, that was just an example. It can also be applied to things like Catholics/Baptists/Evangelicals/Mormons/JWs, conservatives/MAGAs, Zionists, TERFs, and incels. Any bigotry in general, really.
Put up a info graph of a baptists and see if you don't get absolutely crucified in the comments. Nazi was used because we have been conditioned since birth to see them as absolute evil.
Well, I just insinuated that with all the major conservative Christian groups, including baptists. We'll see.
Correct.
Lmao there are legit Nazis out there
Very rare. Most are probably online trolls. The communist killed millions more than the nazi's and the internet is full if them.
https://feddit.de/modlog
check the modlog even today some nazi tried to troll on lemmy. All the communists I see want to improve the world not kill off minorities.
Tell me more about how peaceful Lemmy communist are.
Right above that likely fake nazi I also see a likely real communist wanting to kill white people .
Tell me more about how compassionate communist are. You want to see more screenshots of Lemmy communist wishing death?
The criticism of communism isn't that it has an explicit racial component that wants to kill racial minorities. It's that it has an ill-founded economic and psychological component that has the effect of killing lots of people.
When the Russian communists forcibly confiscated Ukrainian farm land and then tried to have them run by government commissars in one big mass farm system, they were doing it with the good intentions by trying to use use economies of scale to provide more food for everyone.
The problem was they robbed the actual farmers of agency and destroyed the actual motivation to efficiently grow food. Government employees, who get compensated whether they grow little food or a lot of food, are going to naturally maximize their personal gain. Since that gain couldn't be monetary, all they could do was minimize their own expense and effort. So they spent as little effort as possible, and those farms largely failed.
That lead to famine and mass starvation that was so bad, when the Nazis invaded Ukraine during WWII, some Ukrainians temporarily welcomed them as liberators.
That's why most of the modern day governments that still call themselves communist or socialist have largely abandoned the economic ideals of communism and have almost all adopted free market systems.
Yes. The people flying Nazi flags at MAGA rallies in the US are totally trolls. They were totally trolling when they were harassing and threatening minorities in public!
I've been to a few MAGA rallies. I never saw any Nazi flags there. However, I have seen a ton of lefty protesters operating false flags and trolls. Those dopes always get booed and thrown out.
I've been to MAGA rallies. Never once saw a Nazi flag. MAGA folks would tell them to go home.
Hmmm...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/08/22/white-supremacists-are-openly-using-nazi-symbols-thats-a-warning-to-all-of-us/
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2021/01/07/at-maga-rally-israeli-flag-and-neo-nazis-co-exist-awkwardly/
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=85V4ZEhwO5M
https://itsgoingdown.org/nor-cal-maga-activist-linked-to-neo-nazi-gang/
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38057104
Every single link you just shared is fake news.
Ask anyone who goes to MAGA rallies and they will tell you the same thing. No nazis. Unless its FEDS playing dress up for a photoshoot with CNN.