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Blocking and unblocking should be normal, expected, easily discoverable, and openly discussed. There are a lot of people on the Internet; a nonzero number of them are frothing assholes; and frothing assholes are quite capable of running servers.
The whole system we're on here is still new and in rapid flux. Expect change. This isn't Reddit with admins saying for years that hosting /r/jailbait is essential to free speech. It takes time to develop agreeable responses to kinds of trouble this system hasn't yet seen.
SMTP email has been around since 1983. When I was running mail servers in the late 1990s and early 2000s, there was plenty of controversy over how to properly block spam & abuse from mail servers. IRC has been around since 1988, and the history of IRC is the history of conflicts over federation; going back to the founding of EFNet by the exclusion of
eris.berkeley.edu.That's what the long-term history of a federated service looks like. There is change. There is controversy. There are people goddamn sure that if you don't accept their horse porn, that you must hate free speech.
smh this is just the kind of NSFL content we're talking about
The thread was already tagged :)
hah touché!
The problem is not that some (or many) communities may block access to some (or many) other communities, but rather that such blocking is not immediately obvious and may give an appearance that those blocked communities don't exist (kind of like lying by omission). This is especially true if the description of your community implies a lack of enforced blocking. If someone manages a community where it's very clear that outside access is moderately to extremely controlled, I completely support that.