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I often daydream about how society would be if we were not forced by society to pigeon hole ourselves into a specialized career for maximizing the profits of capitalists, and sell most of our time for it.

The idea of creating an entire identity for you around your "career" and only specializing in one thing would be ridiculous in another universe. Humans have so much natural potential for breadth, but that is just not compatible with capitalism.

This is evident with how most people develop "hobbies" outside of work, like wood working, gardening, electronics, music, etc. This idea of separating "hobbies" and the thing we do most of our lives (work) is ridiculous.

Here's how my world could be different if I owned my time and dedicated it to the benefit of my own and my community instead of capitalists:

  • more reading, learning and excusing knowledge with others.
  • learn more handy work, like plumbing and wood working. I love customizing my own home!
  • more gardening
  • participate in the transportation system (picking up shifts to drive a bus for example)
  • become a tour guide for my city
  • cook and bake for my neighbors
  • academic research
  • open source software (and non-software) contributions
  • pick up shifts at a cafรฉ and make coffee, tea and smoothies for people
  • pick up shifts to clean up public spaces, such as parks or my own neighborhood
  • participate in more than one "professions". I studied one type of engineering but work in a completely different engineering. This already proves I can do both, so why not do both and others?

Humans do not like the same thing over and over every day. It's unnatural. But somehow we revolve our whole livelihood around if.

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[โ€“] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 157 points 1 year ago (55 children)

Let's not be confused here. Specialization is what allows for free time. If everyone has to farm and hunt, that's all you'd do. Specialization is a good thing for humanity and diverse institutions and industries to arise.

[โ€“] mountainCalledMonkey@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

actually, hunter-gatherer communities 'work' significantly less time than we do in our corporate jobs. farming is a different story: here's one study: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190520115646.htm

[โ€“] Fizz@lemmy.nz 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can read that study and see that it only represents one instance where hunter gathers were more efficient than farmers in the same region. You cant use that to say to our current system is less efficient. I hate pop science so much its unreal.

[โ€“] w2qw@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

It's also pretty evident that we could not sustain the current population on preindustrial farming let alone hunter gathering.

[โ€“] leanleft@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

reminds me of this project https://farm.bot/ .
but a project like this is so slow or nonexistant development ( i would argue: this is because we put all our hope and time into specialization.) this is only maintained by a few people. it doesn't compete or compare with the size and scale of modern industrial farms so nobody really cares and its not deemed to be important.

i suppose thats a good thing. its not worthwhile to persue agriculture anymore. food is cheap.
i'm more worried about paying my landlord.

[โ€“] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They also have sky high infant mortality rates

[โ€“] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago

Is it because they work less, or is it possibly because our technology, sanitary practices, medical expertise and ability to treat diseases based on thousands of years of trials far exceeds there?

I bet it's because they worked less.

[โ€“] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would then mean we would have to support the entire food supply on hunting rather than farming for this to be true, so basically 90% of the population would have to die

[โ€“] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you thinking that OP is proposing we go back to hunting? I can guarantee that is not what was meant here.

He basically is, he states that I hunter gathering societies that much less work was done, but significantly more in farming societies as a response to another poster saying specialization and careers are a significant contributor to the free time we do have. If he's not suggesting a hunting society is better I don't know what the point of his comment is.

[โ€“] snek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I remember reading in The Mating Mind that since hunter gatherer societies long ago had more leisure time, they could spend it socializing, and growing their brain.

[โ€“] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yup. Hunter gatherers has a lot of free time. Honestly, I think it was pretty swell, except for lack of medical ability perhaps.

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