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[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Since anime was inspired by Disney and other western animation wouldn’t they be called “sushi cartoons” in this naming scheme? The superhero genre is older than the whole anime industry after all.

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not sure where you got this from... Most Animes are based on Mangas (comic books). And they existed long before Disney.

Choju-giga What many believed were the very first manga in Japan appeared in the 12th and 13th century, in a series of drawings like frogs and rabbits titled Choju-giga (Scrolls of Frolicking Animals) produced by several artists.

Disney was founded on October 16, 1923, by brothers Walt Disney and Roy Disney as Disney Brothers Studio

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Disney inspired “modern” (Post-WW2) manga, the style that actually got popular. Big eyes, exaggerated reactions and whatnot.

[–] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 11 points 1 year ago

The concept of animating comics could still be inspired by Disney. Even if they use japanese comics instead if american comics.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Manga is based on cave drawings, the first cave drawings date back to 40,000 BC

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

cave drawings are based on real life, which has existed for much longer

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The artstyle of US comics and ad posters was inspired by impressionism, which in turn was inspired by Japanese woodcuts.

The circle of life.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The superhero genre in comics, but are superhero cartoons older than anime?

[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you count anime as any animation from Japan then no. From my research it looks like the first animated Japanese film was a propaganda film released in 1945.

If you consider the aesthetic commonly known as “anime” today then yes because the first Superman cartoon came out in 1966 while “modern anime” had it’s begins in the 70s.

[–] hydroel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The first superhero cartoons were the Fleischer Superman shorts from 1941-42. Fantastic pieces of animation and available in the public domain, by the way, and a lot more important to Superman's mythos than many may think (they invented and cemented his power of flight). Anyway, it's a no either way.